PostChat #16: From The Masters of Cinema!

I apologize for the lateness of these logs. This week on #PostChat we talked about what we can learn from the masters of cinema editing, a fantastic chat with a lot of great recommendations.

Moderators: @dr0id, @tejbabra, @artguillotine

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@artguillotine: RT @Dr0id: Watch the Masters of Post. Well chat about recommendations for the must watch films for understanding the craft. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:08 am

@theriotisover: @NinjaKittay @Hitecsoftouch lol you two, with the ninja fingers!!! OK, self moderate tonight… the dudes are all working late!! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:08 am

@alex4d: #postchat inspirational films for those interested in post: Se7en. The double DVD has a great grading demo. – September 22, 2011, 1:08 am

@artguillotine: @FinalCutWhiz lol thx;-) #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:08 am

@theriotisover: extras ftw! RT @alex4d: #postchat inspirational films for those interested in post: Se7en. The double DVD has a great grading demo #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:08 am

@adoxography_: A quick and sneaky #postchat before lunch break is over; As far as ‘masters’ editors (and directors) should see Eisenstein films. – September 22, 2011, 1:09 am

@Hitecsoftouch: http://t.co/Xdg6PMVP A Dry White Seasonn #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:09 am

@theriotisover: @FinalCutWhiz I’m here! #fistpump …for a few moments. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:09 am

@FinalCutWhiz: I love watching the BTS extras on movies! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:09 am

@Hitecsoftouch: http://t.co/gntRJqTL Rann #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:11 am

@adoxography_: Eisenstein: http://t.co/JePQLVUL #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:11 am

@artguillotine: A great place to start is with the infographic, we posted, http://t.co/3TwuYXUT #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:11 am

@FinalCutWhiz: When I was younger, I use to watch the Star Wars Episode 3 BTS over and over and over. Drove my parents nuts! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:12 am

@ChristianGlawe: Movies to learn editing by: Gladiator, JFK, Memento, Hot Fuzz, Snatch, Run Lola Run, Man on Wire (just to name a few). #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:12 am

@NinjaKittay: @artguillotine very nice and informative #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:12 am

@NateOrloff: @ChristianGlawe I like how Hot Fuzz is so well cut but it’s editing itself is a parody of über-fast-paced action movies #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:13 am

@NinjaKittay: @ChristianGlawe Definitely Hot Fuzz to the must watch pile. It’s one of my favs! (pssst: Behind you!) #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:13 am

@ChristianGlawe: … oh, and the Baptism sequence from Godfather 2 is required viewing. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:13 am

@FinalCutWhiz: Oh yes! Hot Fuzz is a great one! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:13 am

@NinjaKittay: I think I would add in Silence of the Lambs, Traffic, and One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest to the pile, also #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:13 am

@artguillotine: @ChristianGlawe Hot one of my fav’s but also… The hours…n #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:13 am

@artguillotine: @NinjaKittay thx #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:14 am

@theriotisover: RT @artguillotine: A great place to start is with the infographic, we posted, http://t.co/3TwuYXUT #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:14 am

@alex4d: #postchat Editing movies: Out Of Sight/The Limey, Phantom of the Paradise, His Girl Friday – September 22, 2011, 1:14 am

@Hitecsoftouch: http://t.co/OIhf7N5y Technique of Film Editing #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:14 am

@jasonkonoza: The Tarantino/Menke collabs inspire me, especially Kill Bill. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:14 am

@ChristianGlawe: @NateOrloff Right, but with Hot Fuzz it’s all content driven, and every shot actually *reads* for the viewer! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:14 am

@dwolfmeyer: Pulp Fiction, Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, Reservoir Dogsn #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:14 am

@adoxography_: #postchat Also, I love the way Leon (the Professional) is cut: http://t.co/9vQK0zH5 – September 22, 2011, 1:14 am

@artguillotine: Sorry Hot Fuzz… Trying to read and typen #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:15 am

@kyl33t: Well I’d say some films for the craft for me are Run Lola Run, Dancer in the Dark, Black Swan, and Fight Club. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:15 am

@Hitecsoftouch: lots of specifics and referenced filmsn #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:15 am

@NinjaKittay: @FinalCutWhiz heh I used to watch several movies growing up over n over again, it’s a wonder I didn’t break the tapes (yes VHS!) #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:15 am

@Hitecsoftouch: Leon is awesome.n #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:16 am

@Dr0id: Great list of ‘Best Film Editing Sequences of All-Time’: http://t.co/rRHHKhxj #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:16 am

@ChristianGlawe: Didja Know? The foreshadow first shot in Gladiator of slo-mo hand over wheat at beginning was suggested by the editor… #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:16 am

@Dr0id: I’m workin’ #postchat #postdontstop – September 22, 2011, 1:16 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @ChristianGlawe That is pretty awesome! Editors are so smart! #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:17 am

@Hitecsoftouch: @AvidAsstEditor n #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:17 am

@theriotisover: Hey it’s #PostChat time!! Some peeps are stuck working.. Where u at? @bryancapri @mikeapi – September 22, 2011, 1:18 am

@ChristianGlawe: Might sound weird, but for comic timing the editing in Spinal Tap is pretty phenomenal. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:18 am

@artguillotine: I also love Black Swan, the cutting is fantastic, it walked a very fine line and could have gone into cheese. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:18 am

@theriotisover: And welcome @mmbriano to her first #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:19 am

@NateOrloff: RT @artguillotine: I also love Black Swan, the cutting is fantastic, it walked a very fine line and could have gone into cheese. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:19 am

@jasonkonoza: @ChristianGlawe Can’t underestimate the importance of editing in a comedy. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:19 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @artguillotine I still haven’t seen that. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:19 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @artguillotine I haven’t seen it either… #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:20 am

@Alanedit: @ronsussman I learned everything I apply from Jerry Bruckheimer films, Aliens, and 80′s music videos, and I hate rapid cutting. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:20 am

@Hitecsoftouch: For comedy I would look at http://t.co/2njFwu8B The Party #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:20 am

@dwolfmeyer: I absolutely love Dogtown & Z-Boys, I’ve watched it for inspiration many, many times. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:20 am

@artguillotine: @AvidAsstEditor WHAT!… @finalcutwhiz WHAT!… You two… I am disappoint #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:20 am

@dwolfmeyer: Also, The Kid Stays in the Picture #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:20 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @artguillotine @avidassteditor yeah :/ sorry… I’ll add it on my to-watch list #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:21 am

@Alanedit: @artguillotine Merry Melodies cartoons. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:21 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @artguillotine @finalcutwhiz Too busy working! Don’t take my editing street cred card please! #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:21 am

@artguillotine: @dwolfmeyer Brilliant doc. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:21 am

@artguillotine: @Alanedit YA man, I just saw the merry melodies live with Symphony. AWESOME. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:22 am

@FinalCutWhiz: Any movies this year or late last year you would recommend? #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:22 am

@NateOrloff: I’m Not There and Into The Wild are among the best cut modern films. Drive is a great example of the power in minimal editing. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:22 am

@EditorLiam: A few months back, @quintessential & I went to an editing seminar, he wrote about the films we saw & why #postchat http://t.co/uHj4y1VP – September 22, 2011, 1:22 am

@Hitecsoftouch: Chase scenes from Bullitt http://t.co/dVDnOdf9n #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:22 am

@Alanedit: @artguillotine terrific! man that’s just on time. I must have read your mind. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:23 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @NateOrloff Into the Wild made me so seasick! Why is wobbly cameras acceptable nowadays? #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:23 am

@artguillotine: @Alanedit LOL, also saw video games live. Great stuff #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:23 am

@Alanedit: Aliens has among the best cutting on any movie. Ever. I’ve seen. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:23 am

@mmbriano: it’s true I’m reading but am too shy to tweet haha “@theriotisover: And welcome @mmbriano to her first #PostChat” – September 22, 2011, 1:23 am

@HunterLeMoine: @artguillotine agreed! The cut really kept my interest blown away. Andrew did a remarkable job #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:23 am

@videoguys: RT @jasonkonoza: 8 things I’ve learned from #PostChat featuring the wisdom of @Dr0id, @joetombarello, @theriotisover and others. http://t.co/yNGpZFWq – September 22, 2011, 1:24 am

@ChristianGlawe: @FinalCutWhiz My fave film from last year was “127 Hours” – really creative stuff in there #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:24 am

@dwolfmeyer: Saving Private Ryan. Kahn understood that a lot was happening within the shots in the opening & therefore didn’t over cut it. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:24 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @mmbriano welcome! Don’t be shy, just burst right in #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:24 am

@Hitecsoftouch: @mmbriano too late lol #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:24 am

@NateOrloff: RT @dwolfmeyer: Saving Private Ryan. Kahn understood that a lot was happening within the shots in the opening & therefore didn’t over cut it. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:24 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @ChristianGlawe haven’t seen that either, I’ll have to add it to my list as well #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:25 am

@artguillotine: @HunterLeMoine Andrew’s one of my favorite editors, him and Malcolm Jamieson. Both brilliant! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:25 am

@ChristianGlawe: @dwolfmeyer Oh, man! How could I forget Private Ryan?? First half-hour is completely amazing… #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:25 am

@jasonkonoza: +1 RT @Alanedit: Aliens has among the best cutting on any movie. Ever. I’ve seen. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:25 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @ChristianGlawe @dwolfmeyer I forgot too! Wow, yeah I really like the beginning. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:25 am

@har0ldm: Probably you all know this, but the ‘Returning the painting scene” in the Thomas Crown Affair is pretty good. http://t.co/lEUibzVW #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:25 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @ChristianGlawe @dwolfmeyer Well, if we are going there, just throw Band of Brothers in there. Loved that series. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:26 am

@mmbriano: #oneday was a great film n well edited “@FinalCutWhiz: Any movies this year or late last year you would recommend? #PostChat” – September 22, 2011, 1:26 am

@Hitecsoftouch: First TC Aff or second?n #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:26 am

@NateOrloff: @alex4d The Limey is AMAZING. The editing in that changed my perception of what editing can be. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:27 am

@dwolfmeyer: @AvidAsstEditor @ChristianGlawe @dwolfmeyer Band of Brothers was the greatest thing I have ever watched on TV. AMAZING series. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:27 am

@NinjaKittay: @AvidAsstEditor Band of Brothers, definitely. Many stories woven together well. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:27 am

@theriotisover: @mmbriano Well don’t be shy! ..but lurking and listening and learning ain’t never done me wrong #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:27 am

@dwolfmeyer: I also loved the companion doc for Band of Brothers, We Stand Alone Together. Very straightforward, but powerful. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:28 am

@artguillotine: I also really liked the original Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (Didn’t read the book) looking forward to the new onen #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:28 am

@NinjaKittay: @NateOrloff @alex4d The Limey is quite good. I remember seeing it among several other film noirs in a film study course #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:29 am

@FinalCutWhiz: You guys are helping me fill up my Netflix que #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:29 am

@dwolfmeyer: If we are to delve into TV, Lost was very well edited. The juggling of multiple story lines, times , & places was done masterfully #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:29 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @dwolfmeyer yeah I think we should include TV as well. LOST was very well edited #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:30 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @FinalCutWhiz I was just thinking the same thing! I’m glad a transcript comes out of this. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:30 am

@InvariantMemory: First time poster here. A lot to learn from In the Mood For Love, Happy Together, Chungking Express, Days of Being Wild, 2046. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:30 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @InvariantMemory welcome! All good suggestions #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:31 am

@NinjaKittay: Entering the TV realm, I would suggest Breaking Bad. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:31 am

@artguillotine: @InvariantMemory AWESOME Films… #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:31 am

@FinalCutWhiz: #TrickyQuestion name a terrible movie with excellent editing #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:31 am

@HunterLeMoine: @artguillotine the cut of the first trailer is brilliant and cut very British! Excited as well! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:31 am

@theriotisover: @jasonkonoza @FinalCutWhiz first extras that I really remember watching over were the SFX splits on Starship Troopers #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:31 am

@artguillotine: @NinjaKittay Breaking bad, Also, Sons of Anarchy #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:32 am

@artguillotine: @HunterLeMoine Have you seen the muppets take on the trailer http://t.co/5m0U1BX4 #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:32 am

@EditorLiam: dont forget the Spielbergs Curriculum, it may not be real, but most of the list is must watch for any editor #postchat http://t.co/acYV0YKu – September 22, 2011, 1:32 am

@ChristianGlawe: “Infernal Affairs” (film “The Departed” was based on) is worth a look. Better than Scorsese’s, and 30 minutes shorter! #PostChat #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:33 am

@dwolfmeyer: @FinalCutWhiz That’s tough. If a movie isn’t good, I don’t remember much about it other than that. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:33 am

@adoxography_: #postchat TV wise, I like the way Californication is cut. – September 22, 2011, 1:33 am

@emptyframe: RT @Dr0id: Great list of ‘Best Film Editing Sequences of All-Time’: http://t.co/rRHHKhxj #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:33 am

@Hitecsoftouch: TV Sidney Lumet’s 100 Centre Street #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:33 am

@alex4d: Back to the Future is great for many well-blocked one take shots. Often good editing is about -not- cutting. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:33 am

@dwolfmeyer: @ChristianGlawe I really didn’t like The Departed, it had about 6 different endings, but it kept going and going #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:34 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @dwolfmeyer very true… #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:34 am

@InvariantMemory: Good for use of time/ellipsis: No Country For Old Men, M, LastYearAt Marienbad, Don’t Look Now (any Roeg film, really), The Limey #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:34 am

@EditorLiam: @NinjaKittay agreed, the editing on #BreakingBad is amazing… also must list #TheCloser #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:34 am

@dwolfmeyer: But I do LOVE GoodFellas. Amazing movie, great editing. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:34 am

@ChristianGlawe: @FinalCutWhiz @dwolfmeyer I know I’m older, but pinnacle of TV for me was “Homicide”. #PostChat #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:34 am

@NateOrloff: RT @adoxography_: Eisenstein: http://t.co/JePQLVUL #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:35 am

@Hitecsoftouch: @ChristianGlawe Homicide was good.n #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:35 am

@c0ina: It was A Clockwork Orange that honed my generic love of movies into a fascination with editing. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:35 am

@dwolfmeyer: Going back a bit. The X-Files was a hugely influential series for me. I don’t know that I can cite editing specifically, but still #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:36 am

@KimHuston: Jumping in real quick. Did someone already say The Hurt Locker? I came out thinking “Wow. The Editing.” The Car Bomb seq for sure #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:36 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @c0ina I’d say Star Wars got me interested in filmmaking and editing. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:36 am

@c0ina: An under-rated film with exceptional editing technique is Lone Star by John Sayles. Definitely worth studying. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:36 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @KimHuston I don’t think anyone’s mentioned that yet. I haven’t seen it yet so…. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@mmbriano: #postchat I know a movie is a good edit when I forget I’m watching a movie n feel like I’m witnessing life – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@Star_wars_: RT @FinalCutWhiz2011@c0ina I’d say Star Wars got me interested in filmmaking and editing. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@Jack_McFly: @ChristianGlawe totally agree! #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@KimHuston: The tension created specifically by the cuts is unreal. I love the fake out of the civilian dropping something on the stairs. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@ChristianGlawe: @KimHuston Totally agree re: “Hurt Locker” – great sequence! #PostChat #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@Hitecsoftouch: TV movie Vanishing Point http://t.co/LSj8oNmH speaking of being old… #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@dwolfmeyer: @FinalCutWhiz @c0ina Me too, but now I can’t stand it b/c Lucas just keeps crapping all over it. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@FinalCutWhiz: RT @mmbriano: #postchat I know a movie is a good edit when I forget Im watching a movie n feel like I’m witnessing life #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@HunterLeMoine: @artguillotine ha I have! Love the parody! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:37 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @dwolfmeyer haha I know! I should I say I “NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!” #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:38 am

@artguillotine: @HunterLeMoine I do too, but my wife said… “That’s it” Hmmm. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:38 am

@ChristianGlawe: So true – RT @mmbriano: #postchat I know a movie is a good edit when I forget Im watching a movie n feel like Im witnessing life #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:38 am

@c0ina: @dwolfmeyer I honestly think I learned more about telling stories with moving pictures via the X-Files than from any feature film. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:38 am

@kyl33t: @FinalCutWhiz tree of life. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:38 am

@Jack_McFly: but along with @ninjakittay, i LOVE breaking bad’s editing and pacing. HUGE part of the show. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:39 am

@HunterLeMoine: RT @FinalCutWhiz: RT @mmbriano: #postchat I know a movie is a good edit when I forget Im watching a movie n feel like I’m witnessing life #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:39 am

@Alanedit: @artguillotine Fincher is cutting on FC from what I hear. Would be great to see what the workflow is. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:39 am

@EditorLiam: RT @mmbriano: #postchat I know a movie is a good edit when I forget I’m watching a movie n feel like I’m witnessing life – September 22, 2011, 1:39 am

@ChristianGlawe: “Raising Arizona” had an impact on me – especially the fight scene in the trailer. #PostChat #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:39 am

@artguillotine: @KimHuston The whole film, my fav. cut is the harsh one to him in the grocery store. So mundane, so boring. I thought, Brilliant #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:40 am

@dwolfmeyer: @c0ina I always wanted to move to Vancouver and work on that show, but um who would have hired me? #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:40 am

@adoxography_: #postchat I think it was Walter Murch who said something like an edit should be like blinking ones eye; not noticeable. – September 22, 2011, 1:40 am

@FinalCutWhiz: I thought “The Fighter” was edited well. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:40 am

@natums: Cutting scenes from movies for award show, and discovered ALOT of continuity errors and poor voiceover edits in original Scream. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:41 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @adoxography_ Walter Murch is the M-A-N! #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:41 am

@InvariantMemory: I second GoodFellas and JFK. Amazingly propulsive. Visible invisible editing, if you will – self-conscious but totally immersive. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:41 am

@KimHuston: @artguillotine Yeah. All of it is amazing, really. A lot to learn about slowing it down and manipulating emotion. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:42 am

@dwolfmeyer: The editing in The Matrix was pretty good. Also the Bourne films. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:43 am

@InvariantMemory: @ChristianGlawe That’s a great fight scene in RA. I love the knuckle scrape along the ceiling – such a funny, evocative cut. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:43 am

@ChristianGlawe: @AvidAsstEditor @adoxography_ Didja Know? Walter Murch does *not* watch television. At all. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:43 am

@alex4d: Good editing can be calm too. Soderburgh’s Solaris for example #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:44 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @dwolfmeyer The Bourne films did a great job of guerilla style camera work that makes you feel like you are there. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:44 am

@Hitecsoftouch: Does anyone have an example of something wirh really bad editing? You can learn a lot from bad edits. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:44 am

@NateOrloff: RT @alex4d: Good editing can be calm too. Soderburgh’s Solaris for example #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:44 am

@dwolfmeyer: And of course Heathers, for me that film it the epitome of high school dark comedies. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:44 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @ChristianGlawe @adoxography_ That is interesting. I don’t watch TV either but I think it has more to do with not having a TV. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:44 am

@shotbyesso: I thought the way Tree of Life was cut was perfect. Jump cuts made it feel more surreal and dream like. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:45 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @Hitecsoftouch I’ve been trying to think of one but can’t come up with one. Of course tomorrow I will have about 20. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:45 am

@dwolfmeyer: @kyl33t I really loved “Jose Chung” and “Home” was one of the creepiest of all time #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:46 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @shotbyesso How was that movie? A friend wants me to go but I didn’t like Malick’s other movies. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:46 am

@RaymondRoman: RT @shotbyesso: I thought the way Tree of Life was cut was perfect. Jump cuts made it feel more surreal and dream like. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:46 am

@emptyframe: I’m always impressed by @rcjohnso use of jump cuts, especially in “Brick” #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:46 am

@quintessential: @ChristianGlawe @mmbriano agreed! #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:46 am

@Hitecsoftouch: @AvidAsstEditor I was thinking the same thing #unpreparedn #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:46 am

@HunterLeMoine: @FinalCutWhiz agreed it wasn’t shot awful either. Some single-long shots dropped my jaw. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:47 am

@dwolfmeyer: How could I forget two of the best Buffy episodes, great editing. “The Body” and “Hush” #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:47 am

@NinjaKittay: Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. There’s several sequences I think were done well, grabbed the viewer into the chaos. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:47 am

@sedvideo: @MeccaofSpeed #postchat. A conversation on twitter about post production. – September 22, 2011, 1:47 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @HunterLeMoine also a plus that it was filmed in my home town #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:47 am

@adoxography_: @shotbyesso I thought the opening bit was very daring for a film and then it turned to shit. #postchat #treeoflife – September 22, 2011, 1:47 am

@sedvideo: @MeccaofSpeed not the #postoffice. n#postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:48 am

@HunterLeMoine: @FinalCutWhiz ha that’s always awesome! Did you see the production? #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:48 am

@theriotisover: I’m gonna hafta comb the #PostChat logs tomor..bet there’s tons of good films I haven’t seen yet. #neverenoughtime – September 22, 2011, 1:48 am

@RaymondRoman: @adoxography_ @shotbyesso At times I felt like it was inspired by 2001: A Space Odyssey #TreeOfLife #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:49 am

@djbtv: @Hitecsoftouch Have you seen Alex Pelosi’s doc on Ted Haggard? Awful cuts. Horrific font choice. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:49 am

@Hitecsoftouch: RT @theriotisover: Im gonna hafta comb the #PostChat logs tomor..bet theres tons of good films I havent seen yet. #neverenoughtime #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:49 am

@theriotisover: RT @Hitecsoftouch: Does anyone have an example of something wirh really bad editing? You can learn a lot from bad edits. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:49 am

@NateOrloff: @dwolfmeyer the mood of the overall series was amazing. No specific sequence but the editing in x-files was great. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:49 am

@sedvideo: @ChristianGlawe raising Arizona ranks as one of my personal favorites, as do most Cohen bros films. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:49 am

@HunterLeMoine: @FinalCutWhiz very cool! The pacing of “Cinderella Man” always intrigued me. Older movie but great. #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:49 am

@FinalCutWhiz: Alright time for me to get back to work. Have to produce a couple tutorials on FCPX for you guys. See ya! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:50 am

@InvariantMemory: For good suspense editing, I always think of the end of both Blue Velvet and Heavenly Creatures. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:50 am

@Hitecsoftouch: @djbtv I’ll try to find it. ty #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:50 am

@theriotisover: Lol we just RT each other at the same time, @Hitecsoftouch ?? We are awesome!! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:50 am

@alex4d: The Buffy ep with the cast wandering from dream to dream was very distinctive, @dwolfmeyer #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:50 am

@dwolfmeyer: The Usual Suspects and The Sixth Sense. Well crafted, editing helped to execute well planned shots, love the tone of those films. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:50 am

@djbtv: @Hitecsoftouch of course just my humble opinion but i found the cutting utterly distracting and the font choice offensive. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:50 am

@NateOrloff: RT @dwolfmeyer: If we are to delve into TV, Lost was very well edited. The juggling of multiple story lines, times , & places was done masterfully #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:50 am

@adoxography_: @RaymondRoman Eeeep! And I have never been able to watch that whole film…tried many times @shotbyesso #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:52 am

@Hitecsoftouch: @djbtv As long as no one here cut it. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:52 am

@RaymondRoman: @dwolfmeyer @NateOrloff another TV show — Curb Your Enthusiasm. I feel like I’m IN their conversations #PostChat #Editing – September 22, 2011, 1:52 am

@TejBabra: “@Dr0id: Great list of ‘Best Film Editing Sequences of All-Time’: http://t.co/hczbA9Su #PostChat” – September 22, 2011, 1:53 am

@TejBabra: RT @jasonkonoza: 8 things I’ve learned from #PostChat featuring the wisdom of @Dr0id, @joetombarello, @theriotisover and others. http://t.co/yNGpZFWq – September 22, 2011, 1:53 am

@HunterLeMoine: RT @TejBabra: “@Dr0id: Great list of ‘Best Film Editing Sequences of All-Time’: http://t.co/hczbA9Su #PostChat” – September 22, 2011, 1:54 am

@alex4d: Editing + writing test: start watching a film part way through. How long before you know where you are in the story? #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:55 am

@c0ina: @alex4d I loved Tarkovskiy’s Solaris so much I refused to watch Soderburgh’s. When I finally did I watched it 6 times in one week! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:55 am

@NateOrloff: @dwolfmeyer I seem to agree with you on everything except Goodfellas haha #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:55 am

@NateOrloff: @dwolfmeyer @alex4d oh god yes Apocalypse Now is so amazing. One of the best-cut films of all time. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:56 am

@westonWoodbury: RT @artguillotine: I also love Black Swan, the cutting is fantastic, it walked a very fine line and could have gone into cheese. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:57 am

@alex4d: ‘Unbreakable’ uses blocking and minimal editing to maintain a hypnotic mood. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:57 am

@c0ina: The specific scene in A Clockwork Orange that shook me up from editing perspective was http://t.co/AZNXltuw #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:57 am

@alex4d: ’tis 3am in London, so it’s time for me to stop. Thanks one and all for the #postchat – September 22, 2011, 1:59 am

@Hitecsoftouch: @alex4d Sleep well. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 1:59 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @alex4d Nite! #postchat – September 22, 2011, 2:00 am

@turgano: I was really impress with the editing of Scott Pilgrim. It wasn’t as a.d.d. as I thought. Pacing was all over the place. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:01 am

@turgano: I just remember how great the audio and effects and foley were put together #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:02 am

@NateOrloff: @dwolfmeyer While I agree it’s his best, I vehemently disagree with the Thelma Schoonmaker school of editing #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:02 am

@joesh: RT @artguillotine: I also love Black Swan, the cutting is fantastic, it walked a very fine line and could have gone into cheese. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:02 am

@theriotisover: Well it’s 10pm and I’m sure it was a great #PostChat I’m sure @Dr0id would remind u, transcripts will be posted, yaddayadda – September 22, 2011, 2:03 am

@Hitecsoftouch: Time Gentlemen (and Ladies) Please! #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:03 am

@shotbyesso: No Country For Old Men! Beautifully edited. Perfect blend of suspense w/o overdoing it or being too dramatic. #postchat – September 22, 2011, 2:03 am

@theriotisover: But just like post doesn’t sleep, #PostChat doesn’t hafta end now! And the tag’s open all week. – September 22, 2011, 2:03 am

@joesh: RT @artguillotine: A great place to start is with the infographic, we posted, http://t.co/3TwuYXUT #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:04 am

@c0ina: Off topic – has everyone seen the new production music library that Vimeo launched today? vimeo.com/musicstore #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:04 am

@Hitecsoftouch: Damn, I forgot to get a beer out tonight… #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:04 am

@jasonkonoza: Great #PostChat tonight, solid recommendations! I’m gonna see if any of those flicks are at the Blockbuster bankruptcy sale. – September 22, 2011, 2:04 am

@Hitecsoftouch: @c0ina I saw the posting. Have not checked it out yet.n #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:05 am

@NinjaKittay: Great chat as always! And awesome recommendations. Cya again next week #Postchat – September 22, 2011, 2:05 am

@Hitecsoftouch: Good idea Jason. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:06 am

@AvidAsstEditor: Everyone have a good night! #postchat – September 22, 2011, 2:06 am

@Hitecsoftouch: Night all. #PostChat – September 22, 2011, 2:06 am

PostChat #15: Festival Fever!

This #PostChat we discussed Preparing for Film Festivals, racing against deadlines, deliverables, and more!

Moderators: @dr0id, @tejbabra, @artguillotine

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@TejBabra: Welcome to PostChat Tonight’s TopicPrepping for Film Fests- Racing deadlines, meeting deliverables, surviving the festival fever. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:00 am

@jasonkonoza: Lurking in #postchat tonight, always a good conversation. – September 15, 2011, 1:01 am

@kim_garland: RT @TejBabra Welcome to #PostChat Tonight’s TopicPrepping for Film Fests- Racing deadlines, meeting deliverables, surviving festival fever. – September 15, 2011, 1:01 am

@macgarp: missed the last few #postchat s. howdy – September 15, 2011, 1:01 am

@TejBabra: Surviving the festivals means plenty of ice coffee for me. What is your vice? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:01 am

@Salah_Baker: @TejBabra looks like a good read night #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:02 am

@TejBabra: @Salah_Baker what tips can you give for surviving festivals? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:02 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra ooo yea steady stream of caffeine and having a random good sense of humour helps! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:02 am

@TejBabra: @macgarp welcome. Tonight’s TopicPrepping for Film Fests- Racing deadlines, meeting deliverables, surviving festival fever. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:03 am

@jeffrey723: #postchat 3 words for film festivals… Withoutabox. Withoutabox. Withoutabox. – September 15, 2011, 1:03 am

@jamiecobbeditor: If you can help it, only submit completed films. Spoke to a programmer who couldn’t see passed temp score. Schedule accordingly. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:03 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay Humor is crucial! especially when it come to deliverables. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:04 am

@NinjaKittay: @jeffrey723 I have 3 more words: Check. Double Check. Triple Check. (everything!) x3 #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:04 am

@Salah_Baker: @TejBabra no such thing in my world remember I’m in bumf$&k no where #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:04 am

@joetombarello: Testing out some motion graphics on Livestream & lurking in the #Postchat… Interested to see how tonight’s topic turns out. – September 15, 2011, 1:04 am

@FinalCutWhiz: Hello everyone #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:04 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @jeffrey723 What is withoutabox? I don’t know a thing about festivals. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:04 am

@TejBabra: @jamiecobbeditor great tip! don’t hand it rough cuts either! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:04 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @TejBabra @jamiecobbeditor You have to say don’t hand in rough cuts? You must be pulling my leg!n #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:05 am

@FinalCutWhiz: I recently submitted a documentary to about 30 festivals. So far I’ve heard back from 2 who both accepted mine #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:05 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra definitely considering there will be bumps along the way. It -will- be stressful, that’s where it comes handy #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:06 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @FinalCutWhiz Congrats! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:06 am

@TejBabra: @AvidAsstEditor @jamiecobbeditor nope. seen it happen…and the final film was completely different than the rough cut. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:06 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @AvidAsstEditor thank you kind sir #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:06 am

@NinjaKittay: @FinalCutWhiz that’s awesome :3 Bet you’re excited! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:06 am

@TejBabra: @FinalCutWhiz congratz! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:06 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @NinjaKittay yes I am thanks #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:06 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra thanks!! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:06 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra Festivals accept rough cuts, they usually don’t program them though. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:07 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @TejBabra @jamiecobbeditor Wow. I have a problem sending rough cuts to producers let alone to a festival! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:07 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: Has any1 had further success based on a submitted film from a film festival. I really don’t see the point in Film Festivals. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:07 am

@macgarp: @TejBabra ah cool. something I am interested in but have no clue about. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:07 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @BadBoyOfEditing I know a friend who got a pilot picked up by HBO. Definitely good for the loot & financing other projects maybe? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:08 am

@TejBabra: @jamiecobbeditor @AvidAsstEditor Well they often say its temp music or it’s missing grading. And then the final film is different #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:08 am

@NinjaKittay: @BadBoyOfEditing Hm. There are awards, new network opportunities, and chance to explore new genre for film contests/festivals ;o #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:08 am

@jeffrey723: #postchat other big piece of advice: your film is too long. Cut it down more — shorter is better. Much better. – September 15, 2011, 1:08 am

@TejBabra: @BadBoyOfEditing I recently onlined a film for the Vancouver Film festival. SO that worked out. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:09 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @TejBabra @jamiecobbeditor So that is normal protocol to submit an unfinished product? Mind boggling. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:09 am

@NinjaKittay: @AvidAsstEditor @BadBoyOfEditing wow that’s a pretty cool opportunity! Best of luck to them. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:09 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @BadBoyOfEditing they are great for me since I am applying to colleges now. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:09 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @BadBoyOfEditing agreed. Unless you get lucky & into one of the big ones. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:09 am

@TejBabra: @macgarp press conferences? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:09 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @jeffrey723 What is a typical length for a festival film? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:09 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @AvidAsstEditor @jeffrey723 the doc I submitted is about 20min #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:10 am

@Dr0id: Can’t Post Chat tonight because I’m workin’ :/ #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:10 am

@macgarp: @TejBabra film festivals. lol tho I go as a fan to see celebs #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:10 am

@TejBabra: @Salah_Baker NAB is a festival of other types. Gear and drinking. Lol #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @Dr0id Awww! That blows! See you next week? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@TejBabra: We shall miss you tonight. RT @Dr0id: Cant Post Chat tonight because Im workin :/ #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @BadBoyOfEditing yeah, looks great on resumes and some offer scholarships! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@macgarp: @Dr0id hah! so what. I am workin too. editing your fave newscast. multitask my friend! lol j/k #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @TejBabra @Salah_Baker I saw that from all of the tweets from this year. Definitely going next year! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @Dr0id aww, boo to work!! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@NinjaKittay: @Dr0id *waves* hope work goes fast D: #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @AvidAsstEditor Yeah, I wouldn’t recommend it. Plan ahead. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@Salah_Baker: @David_Newman #Postchat is about film festival prep, join in – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@jeffrey723: @AvidAsstEditor #postchat depends on the program. Any short I see longer than 12 minutes makes me cringe and die inside – September 15, 2011, 1:11 am

@NinjaKittay: @FinalCutWhiz agreed! I think it fleshed out my resume quite a bit to refer back to these awards/contests, etc. @BadBoyOfEditing #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:12 am

@TejBabra: @macgarp ah… Yeah I normally just see the celebs on my moniter as I edit the conference or b-roll. like now… #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:12 am

@pirid: @AvidAsstEditor @tejbabra @jamiecobbeditor many festivals accept Works in Progress. Don’t know acceptance rate tho. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:12 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @jeffrey723 Wow. I don’t think I have ever even been to a film festival. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:12 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @NinjaKittay @badboyofediting yep and someone might notice you and hire you #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:12 am

@jasonkonoza: @TejBabra Have you worked on anything showing at #TIFF11 this week? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:12 am

@jeffrey723: @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor #postchat that’s a funky length for programmers – tough to fit with shorts, has to play with a short feature – September 15, 2011, 1:12 am

@Salah_Baker: @TejBabra I had to do all video ads for company divisions in booth, so it’s close…;) #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:12 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @jeffrey723 @AvidAsstEditor totally agree but if u cant make a short that is 10mins or less u are doing it wrong. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:13 am

@seafcpug: RT @Salah_Baker: @David_Newman #Postchat is about film festival prep, join in – September 15, 2011, 1:13 am

@TejBabra: @jasonkonoza @TejBabra Working on some of the press conferences, and promos. But no film entered this year. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:13 am

@natums: @BadBoyOfEditing Most success from fests comes from networking and ‘award winning’ for resumes. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:13 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @BadBoyOfEditing @jeffrey723 Well, of all things to take note of I will definitely remember shorter is better. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:13 am

@TejBabra: @Salah_Baker I had to cover some events and hang with people like Jay. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:14 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @natums @BadBoyOfEditing Are all festivals created equal? Or are some more prestigious? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:14 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @natums yeh jsut think with the million film festivals out there its watered down as hell. Not as prestigious as it used to be. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:14 am

@TejBabra: What about online festivals such as Vimeo or Youtube? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:15 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @AvidAsstEditor @natums @BadBoyOfEditing I’m sure there are definitely ones who are prestigious! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:15 am

@macgarp: @TejBabra hah well the celebs in my book are prolly not celebs to many other ppl… went to a horror movie convention filmfest #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:15 am

@NinjaKittay: @BadBoyOfEditing @natums It’s true there are a wide range of festivals out there. Makes variety, gives you options though! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:15 am

@TejBabra: @macgarp never been to a horror film festival. sounds like fun #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:16 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra haven’t really applied to any festivals that are strictly online. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:16 am

@jaimetheactress: RT @jamiecobbeditor: If you can help it, only submit completed films. Spoke to a programmer who couldn’t see passed temp score. Schedule accordingly. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:16 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra I’ve participated in a YouTube contest, had Ben Stein promoting animal rights – voting was weird though admittedly. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:16 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra @macgarp haha that does sound like fun #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:16 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @FinalCutWhiz @TejBabra There are online-only film festivals? Gee whiz! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:17 am

@macgarp: @BadBoyOfEditing @jeffrey723 @AvidAsstEditor lol so true! that defines “short” #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:17 am

@TejBabra: @FinalCutWhiz maybe we should have one for cutting on AOTG? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:17 am

@jeffrey723: @AvidAsstEditor @BadBoyOfEditing #postchat gotta be ruthless and. Only use what you absolutely need to tell a story, do not indulge – September 15, 2011, 1:17 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @NinjaKittay @natums really think the festival circuit keeps you stuck. Submit your film and move on! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:17 am

@macgarp: @TejBabra a horror film fest is like the only kind where it’s actually fun to watch a terrible film and u see ppl on their way up #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:18 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra hmm that might be cool cc: @artguillotine #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:18 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @NinjaKittay @natums a short I post supervised won a french animation festival over a year after it came out. pretty sad. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:18 am

@NinjaKittay: @BadBoyOfEditing @natums I understand. I enjoy adding it in throughout the year as time allows. Gives me something to do also. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:18 am

@TejBabra: @macgarp true…but you can see some great indie stuff too right? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:18 am

@TejBabra: @FinalCutWhiz @artguillotine nah…I will just launch on my tech blog there and not tell him …LOL! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:19 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra @artguillotine hahaha #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:19 am

@jasonkonoza: @macgarp @tejbabra Sounds like a blast, where was it? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:19 am

@NinjaKittay: @BadBoyOfEditing oh wow D: There’s a 48 hour film project that I was involved in that has won award past it’s year mark though! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:19 am

@macgarp: @TejBabra lol ALL of the films I saw were extremely independent. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:20 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @NinjaKittay @TejBabra lol i hate online voting! Breeds the worst film makers and bad competitions. Becomes a spam festival #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:20 am

@westonWoodbury: @AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra @jamiecobbeditor I don’t think so. Most I’ve had films submitted to want finished projects only. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:20 am

@TejBabra: @BadBoyOfEditing @NinjaKittay @TejBabra good point. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:20 am

@randy_e_lee: Be selective about the festivals you submit to. You’re more likely to be accepted than if you only submit to the big ones. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:20 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @BadBoyOfEditing @NinjaKittay @TejBabra yeah I hate online voting too. Too much cheating :/ #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:20 am

@NinjaKittay: @BadBoyOfEditing @TejBabra EESH don’t get me started =/ I do dislike online voting for those reasons, agreed. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:21 am

@TejBabra: @macgarp nice! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:21 am

@macgarp: @jasonkonoza @tejbabra this was at @SpookyEmpire horror convention in Orlando. my friend was a vendor so I got discount tix #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:21 am

@FinalCutWhiz: The sad thing about submitting to festivals is some don’t want the video to be public yet, so you cannot show it or put it online #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:21 am

@NinjaKittay: @macgarp @TejBabra never been to a horror festival, though I have seen some horror films in a festival does sound fun! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:22 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @randy_e_lee Premiere status matters to a lot of festivals. Try for the ones that matter to you first #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:22 am

@westonWoodbury: @jeffrey723 @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor interesting point on the 20m range. Worth taking into account. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:22 am

@natums: @BadBoyOfEditing true. It’s about getting into the big festivals, smaller ones just limit what else you can do with your film. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:22 am

@NinjaKittay: @jamiecobbeditor @randy_e_lee that’s the key, enter one you’ll love then it won’t matter the outcome as much as the exp you had. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:23 am

@TejBabra: I have to cut a festival version , and then a version for broadcast. (cutdown) #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:23 am

@jeffrey723: @FinalCutWhiz if it can be shorter, it should be shorter! When in doubt, it’s too long. should be the cardinal rule of filmmaking #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:23 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @natums @BadBoyOfEditing So what is considered a big festival? I see them at the beginning of films but have no context for them. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:23 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @jeffrey723 sadly the producer wanted ever little bit to stay in it #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:24 am

@randy_e_lee: @jamiecobbeditor Sadly, your relationship with the coordinators of the festival is often just as important as premiere status. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:24 am

@westonWoodbury: @BadBoyOfEditing @natums I agree. I dont know where the line is between ‘this festival is just a giant money maker’ & ‘legitimate’ #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:24 am

@NinjaKittay: @westonWoodbury There are certainly times to question that, it’s good to, but plenty of decent ones to be had, if you like em. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:25 am

@jeffrey723: @FinalCutWhiz #postchat Common problem. Too long is the #1 problem with everything I see at fests. It’s like this… #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:25 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @AvidAsstEditor @natums I’d say rule of thumb if the city’s film fest has a pop of over 2mill & is that cities main fest its big. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:26 am

@TejBabra: @BadBoyOfEditing @AvidAsstEditor @natums does my backyard count? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @westonWoodbury @natums well if u get spam from them they are not that prestigious. Newport Beach & palm Springs come to mind. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@westonWoodbury: @NinjaKittay the thing is it gets expensive. REALLY quick. | Submitting to film festivals | #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @BadBoyOfEditing @natums That is a great answer! Two thumbs up! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@natums: @AvidAsstEditor @BadBoyOfEditing Toronto, Sundance, Tribeca, there are others but those are the top 3 off the top of my head. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra hahaha nice one #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@macgarp: as a fan it’s a lot of fun to go to these festivals, provided they don’t get too pretentious. I like seeing new stuff #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay How expensive is it and what are you submitting? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@jeffrey723: @FinalCutWhiz #postchat indie film is stupidly resource intensive. If you had the money to make it longer, you wouldn’t be indie #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay yes it does! The producer of my doc spent nearly $1,000 on 30 festivals. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:27 am

@NinjaKittay: @westonWoodbury Very true! I suppose that’s why I’d say pick n choose battles there. Not all are $$$, it depends D: #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:28 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @natums if alcohol is provided then, yes! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:28 am

@westonWoodbury: @BadBoyOfEditing @natums hmm not sure there; I mean technically, I get a lot of “spam” from Sundance, for example. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:28 am

@TejBabra: @BadBoyOfEditing @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @natums It would be the biggest festival ! lol #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:28 am

@NinjaKittay: @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury whoah! yeah…it can add it up. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:28 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @AvidAsstEditor $1,000 was nearly spent on festival submissions for my doc. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:29 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay But that is only about $30 a submission. That doesn’t sound too expensive. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:29 am

@jeffrey723: @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay no doubt, I spent almost $500 submitting my short, got in 9 fests, bounced from 10, waiting on 12. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:29 am

@westonWoodbury: @AvidAsstEditor @NinjaKittay shorts. They can run anywhere from Free to close to 80, 90$ entry. More? Maybe, not exactly sure. | #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:29 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @AvidAsstEditor it varies, some more, some less. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:29 am

@westonWoodbury: @jeffrey723 @NinjaKittay the last film I was involved with is probably about the same figures. It’s got into only 1 so far. | #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:30 am

@NinjaKittay: @westonWoodbury @AvidAsstEditor yeah, participating in short film festivals are cheaper I believe than lengthier ones. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:30 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @randy_e_lee Yeah, for certain festivals that is very true #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:30 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay the big question how many of those 30 did it get accepted in? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:30 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @FinalCutWhiz I don’t know anything about festivals but I expected more but what they don’t take in $$$ they def take in time. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:30 am

@randy_e_lee: @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor That depends on how many the film made it into. Again, selection of the right festivals is key. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:30 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @BadBoyOfEditing @westonwoodbury @ninjakittay only heard from 2 so far, both accepted it #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:31 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @AvidAsstEditor I think one of them might have been about $200, but I am not exactly sure #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:31 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @randy_e_lee @avidassteditor very true… #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:31 am

@jeffrey723: @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay yes, avg acceptance =~5%, feels like. My current short is short&genre-specific, which does better #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:31 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @randy_e_lee @FinalCutWhiz Is there a festival guru out there to let you know where to submit?Would it be bad to blanket them all? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:31 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @FinalCutWhiz Now, that is pricey! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:32 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @AvidAsstEditor @randy_e_lee I’m sure books and blogs write about which festivals to apply. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:32 am

@TejBabra: This year was the first year we submitted on HDCAM, and Blu Ray. What deliverables have you used? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:32 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra online FTP and DVD. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:32 am

@NinjaKittay: @jeffrey723 @westonWoodbury yea, depends! Sometimes you’ll do short film that is very specific in genre, others not as much. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:32 am

@westonWoodbury: @jeffrey723 @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay what genre? Do we feel like some are overplayed, or harder/easier to get it if unique? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:33 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra some of the festivals I submitted in required it to be uploaded online. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:33 am

@randy_e_lee: @AvidAsstEditor Start w/ home city, cities where you filmed, fests that similar films have done well in, fests w/ target audience #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:33 am

@NinjaKittay: @FinalCutWhiz @TejBabra Ditto on that. mostly DVD, sometimes online, etc. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:34 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @TejBabra Blu ray is cheaper and more convenient, but one fest had dinosaur of a player & movie skipped & never finished #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:34 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @randy_e_lee That is a lot of work. I commend anyone who goes through the process. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:34 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor @randy_e_lee LOL just googled “film festival scams” bit of a laugh I guess thats the first stop. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:34 am

@westonWoodbury: @TejBabra usually DVD/online for submitting, then they ask for better version once accepted. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:34 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @NinjaKittay @FinalCutWhiz @TejBabra yeah, I’ve actually never made a blu-ray #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:34 am

@NinjaKittay: @westonWoodbury I think there are certain genres that go over better than others, dark comedy is harder, fantasy easier to fit in? #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:35 am

@TejBabra: @jamiecobbeditor wow really? I remember when that used to happen when DVD came out with the dual layer format. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:35 am

@jeffrey723: @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay edgy & offbeat & shorter is better. Straight, personal melodrama goes over badly 99% of the time. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:35 am

@TejBabra: @westonWoodbury online seems to be getting more popular for intail submissions. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:36 am

@westonWoodbury: @jeffrey723 @NinjaKittay yep yep, confirmed on both your comments. I think super-”artsy” is a big bonus, for better or worse. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:36 am

@NinjaKittay: @jeffrey723 @westonWoodbury also, don’t forget zombie/horror. For various reasons, always seems to be among winners in my exp. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:36 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra @westonWoodbury it is easier…. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:37 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @TejBabra Played fine in all of our decks. It was a friends film at Buffalo Niagra fest. Definitely not worth the time or money. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:37 am

@macgarp: @NinjaKittay ZOMBIES! yesssss #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:38 am

@TejBabra: @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury I suppose, but as long as they ask for a proper copy later as we do crush these files out for onilne #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:38 am

@jeffrey723: @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay edgy/gory/funny grabs attention. Subtle films get lost unless VERY carefully programmed, (ie never) #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:38 am

@TejBabra: @jamiecobbeditor sounds like a total waste. Sorry! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:38 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra @westonwoodbury oh definitely! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:38 am

@TejBabra: @macgarp @NinjaKittay WHERE? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:38 am

@NinjaKittay: @jeffrey723 @westonWoodbury Oh yes, felt the sting of that recently. Subtle might work in specific festival perhaps. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:39 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra @macgarp BEHIND YOU! :O #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:39 am

@westonWoodbury: @TejBabra @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury yeah, on the big screen web’s bad. Id feel comfortable file-based prores or something, tho #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:39 am

@jeffrey723: @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay super-artsy=”How To Make a David Lynch Film”, loved this http://t.co/uJP4E9lL #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:39 am

@westonWoodbury: @jeffrey723 @westonWoodbury @NinjaKittay haha. nice #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:40 am

@NinjaKittay: @jeffrey723 @westonWoodbury Nice!! xD #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:40 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay @macgarp Aghhhh…I’m bit… #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:40 am

@artguillotine: sorry I’m Late Guys and Gals what’s new #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:41 am

@TejBabra: @artguillotine Welcome to the party… #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:41 am

@NinjaKittay: @artguillotine *waves* #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:41 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @artguillotine Awesome you stopped by! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:41 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @artguillotine tisk tisk welcome! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:41 am

@westonWoodbury: @artguillotine #wb #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:42 am

@theriotisover: Srry #PostChat I just got home. Hii. – September 15, 2011, 1:42 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @theriotisover you too? haha hey #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:42 am

@TejBabra: @theriotisover Welcome! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:42 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @theriotisover No worries! Still time enough to jump right in! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:42 am

@NinjaKittay: @theriotisover hiya there! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:42 am

@jamiecobbeditor: Any editor been to a fest w/ an award for best editing? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:43 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @jamiecobbeditor No #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:43 am

@AlexLuster: @TejBabra wow… I happen to be on here at the right time again! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:43 am

@NinjaKittay: @jamiecobbeditor 48 hour film festival has best editing award if I recall rightly. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:43 am

@theriotisover: @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra well hello!! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:44 am

@TejBabra: @AlexLuster why? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:44 am

@LosAngelesPost: 2010 I won best picture editing at the L A Reel FFl RT @jamiecobbeditor: Any editor been to a fest w/ an award for best editing? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:45 am

@artguillotine: What’s everyone’s worst/best fest. deadline experiencen #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:45 am

@TejBabra: @artguillotine best TIFF, worst you! LOL #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:45 am

@AlexLuster: @TejBabra I always forget about #postchat … I just happend to read your tweet – September 15, 2011, 1:45 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @NinjaKittay nice! It always bugs me when the script, director, & DP can win awards, but not the editor. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:45 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @artguillotine I edited right up to an hour before the deadline of one. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@NinjaKittay: @artguillotine Worst and best: 48 hour fest hands down D: #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @LosAngelesPost nice. Congrats! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@jeffrey723: Favorite fest = Palm Springs International Short Film Fest, and LA’s Dances With Films. Great organization, great screenings #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @jamiecobbeditor @NinjaKittay How is that possible? Editors aren’t just button pushers! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@TejBabra: @AlexLuster about the Zombie attack. or did you miss that one? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@NinjaKittay: @jamiecobbeditor yes! Agreed, the unfortunate part is it ends up going to most aparrent edits, not always ‘best’ edits #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @NinjaKittay @artguillotine I’ve heard some 48 hour horror stories. What a thrill! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@artguillotine: @FinalCutWhiz WHAT! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:46 am

@NinjaKittay: @LosAngelesPost @jamiecobbeditor very nice, grats on the award. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@insaneINTHEjane: @Dr0id but what times we had together tonight! Sorry #postchat I stole your boy. – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@FinalCutWhiz: I’ve been to a “festival” which was horribly organized and I won by a mile! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@LosAngelesPost: Thanks And I’m a “Sound guy…” RT @jamiecobbeditor: @LosAngelesPost nice. Congrats! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@NinjaKittay: @AvidAsstEditor @artguillotine oh man…it’s so intense and high pressure but rewarding as well. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@theriotisover: Worst? Kid in my film school talked me into entering that Grindcore trailer fest. Ugh. On two day’s notice. :/ Did not end well. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @NinjaKittay yes. unfortunately agreed as well. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@theriotisover: GIVE HIM BACK TO US!! RT @insaneINTHEjane: @Dr0id but what times we had together tonight! Sorry #postchat I stole your boy. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@TejBabra: @AvidAsstEditor @NinjaKittay @artguillotine I worked on on a 48 hour film it was great fun. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:47 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @artguillotine haha yeah, but we ended up winning anyways. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:48 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @artguillotine This has been 2nd year for me now. Gotta be on your toes for it, it’s never the same! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:48 am

@artguillotine: @FinalCutWhiz Nice. @ninjakittay, I enjoy 48hr film fests but as long as the team I’m with is easy to work with #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:49 am

@westonWoodbury: @artguillotine nothing too crazy, I think an overnighter, delivering dvd by hand within the last hour. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:49 am

@NinjaKittay: I’ve got all the horror and fun about em on my blog – http://t.co/QImsvNh6 only a few posts down. heheh. For any curious. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:50 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @artguillotine especially if you get stuck on a genre…we had “western” #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:50 am

@jamiecobbeditor: Best part of festival experiences is seeing an audience react to your work on the big screen #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:50 am

@randy_e_lee: #48hourfilm festivals are fun.. but definitely not anyone’s best work. Barely count as festivals, except maybe larger markets. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:50 am

@NinjaKittay: @artguillotine @FinalCutWhiz Yeah the team is important for sure. having cast show up too xD and equipment not fizzling out D: #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:50 am

@FinalCutWhiz: Real quick about deadlines: I was asked to film a wedding two days before it! Then he wanted it edited in 2 weeks. Ugh! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:50 am

@jeffrey723: @jamiecobbeditor Yes it is! Especially when you’re sure they won’t dig it. Great feeling. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@artguillotine: @westonWoodbury Not too bad, I’ve had the director have to leave for NY while we were locking. Producer = Not Pleased #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@TejBabra: @artguillotine what about timecode? #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@westonWoodbury: @NinjaKittay @jamiecobbeditor exactly. Subtle editing doesn’t exactly rack in the awards. Same for other positions, ftmp. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@theriotisover: Another worst: NYU director recut short before screening at First Run. I find out in the theater. I stopped speaking to that dude. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @artguillotine OH man, western!? we drew dark comedy this year, and fantasy last year. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @NinjaKittay @artguillotine on a tight deadline like that, you need to make sure everyone is on board and knows what’s what. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@Dr0id: It was fun! Always good to work w Jane RT @insaneINTHEjane: @Dr0id but what times we had together tonight! Sorry #postchat I stole your boy. – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@artguillotine: @TejBabra I thought you said you didn’t like TC #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:51 am

@theriotisover: @FinalCutWhiz I hope you charged him rush over time fees for that. siiigh.n #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:52 am

@NinjaKittay: @FinalCutWhiz Oh yes, and even then, plan for worst, hope for best? heheh. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:52 am

@LosAngelesPost: Lame! RT @theriotisover: Another worst: NYU director recut short before screening at 1st Run. … #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:52 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @artguillotine you lucked out! Western in the middle of Toronto was very hard to pull off #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:52 am

@TejBabra: @artguillotine yep totally useless for festivals. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:52 am

@artguillotine: @TejBabra @NinjaKittay @AvidAsstEditor @artguillotine Gotta think outside the box Tej #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:53 am

@theriotisover: @LosAngelesPost Yeah, wish I’d known. Or that he’d at least taken my name off if it, since it was no longer my work. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:53 am

@TejBabra: @artguillotine @TejBabra @NinjaKittay @AvidAsstEditor We did…it was a modern day version, kind of like Firefly #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:54 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @theriotisover @LosAngelesPost That blows! Who does that? (Other than him of course) #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:54 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @NinjaKittay haha very true #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:54 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @westonWoodbury Sadly, best way to judge “best editing” is to see all of the footage they had to work w/. Subjective by default. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:54 am

@LosAngelesPost: “tweaks…” RT @theriotisover: @LosAngelesPost Yeah, wish I’d known. Or that he’d at least taken my name off if it … #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:55 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay no that was our first draw. As a team we swore not to change it, but to rise to the challenge. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:55 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra nice! I was scared to death of drawing musical D: I’ve seen teams crash n burn on that one near deadline. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:55 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @TejBabra @NinjaKittay Good attitude! Even tho I am a sucker for a western. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:56 am

@theriotisover: @AvidAsstEditor @LosAngelesPost It was baaad …there were dissolves involved. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:56 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay true that’s a lot of writing and choreography #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:56 am

@westonWoodbury: @jamiecobbeditor true there. ‘And the award for the editor that most saved the project goes to…’ #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:56 am

@NinjaKittay: @AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra hehe our team discussed possibility of it coming up, but just hoped it wouldn’t xD #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:56 am

@artguillotine: RT @jamiecobbeditor: Sadly, best way to judge “best editing” is to see all the footage they had to work w/ Subjective by default. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:57 am

@TejBabra: @AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra @NinjaKittay Thanks the crowd seem to love it. We did not win though. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:57 am

@westonWoodbury: @theriotisover @AvidAsstEditor @LosAngelesPost (shakes head, you just haveta know when to put the star wipes in) #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:57 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @theriotisover @LosAngelesPost I love dissolves! And Star wipes are my skeleton in the closet. Any chance I get. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:57 am

@theriotisover: @westonWoodbury @AvidAsstEditor @LosAngelesPost STAAARR WIIIPE!!! it fixes everything. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:57 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor Yeah, our poor dark comedy just didn’t have a chance against zombies n superheroes! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:58 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @artguillotine @jamiecobbeditor very true :/ #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:58 am

@jamiecobbeditor: @westonWoodbury haha. Edit doctors do most work & get least credit. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:58 am

@FinalCutWhiz: Haha oh goodness! RT @theriotisover: @westonWoodbury @AvidAsstEditor @LosAngelesPost STAAARR WIIIPE!!! it fixes everything. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:58 am

@theriotisover: @NinjaKittay @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor /perks up… ZOMBEIS YOU SAY??? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:58 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay @AvidAsstEditor ouch! that’s rough! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:58 am

@artguillotine: RT @jamiecobbeditor: @westonWoodbury haha. Edit doctors do most work & get least credit. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 1:58 am

@NinjaKittay: @theriotisover yes!! Behind you!!! :O xD #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:59 am

@TejBabra: @theriotisover @NinjaKittay @TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor WHERE ….NOT AGAIN…Shotgun…wher eis the shotgun…LOL #postchat – September 15, 2011, 1:59 am

@NinjaKittay: @TejBabra @theriotisover @AvidAsstEditor hah damn zombies just keep popping up all over! must be feeding time xD #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:00 am

@theriotisover: @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury @AvidAsstEditor @LosAngelesPost And then use some glittery particle fx and it’ll be A-MAZING. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:00 am

@AvidAsstEditor: @theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury @LosAngelesPost You guys have me dying on the floor. LOL #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:01 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @theriotisover LMAO! Imagine if FCPX’s default transition was star wipe? :O #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:01 am

@NinjaKittay: @theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury @AvidAsstEditor @LosAngelesPost Ugh. star wipes n glitter n page curls oh my! #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:01 am

@TejBabra: Thank you to everyone for joining tonight’s Post Chat. See you all next week. ( and star wipe to black ) #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:01 am

@westonWoodbury: @NinjaKittay @theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor we ALL know no project’s complete until you add the star wipe. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:02 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @TejBabra NO!!!!!! Not yet :’( #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:02 am

@NinjaKittay: (star wipe to black and zombie pops out and does a jig) #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:02 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay OMG …LOL #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:03 am

@NinjaKittay: @westonWoodbury @theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor note to self: add star wipe to next project. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:03 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @NinjaKittay @westonWoodbury @theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor hahahahaha ditto #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:04 am

@westonWoodbury: @NinjaKittay @theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz @AvidAsstEditor slow too. 96 frames+ should secure you your next festival win. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:04 am

@FinalCutWhiz: @westonWoodbury @ninjakittay @theriotisover @avidassteditor you guys are too funny #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:04 am

@theriotisover: Oh #PostChat, if we’ve learned ANYTHING tonight it’s that we all love zombies and glitter and star wipes. And fests are bunk timewasters. <3 – September 15, 2011, 2:04 am

@NinjaKittay: Thanks for the fun chat! :3 See ya all next week /does a jig and trips over a chair and lands on other jigging zombie. AIEEE! lol. #Postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:05 am

@theriotisover: @FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury @ninjakittay @avidassteditor THESE ARE IMPORTANT PRO TIPS PEOPLE, WRITE THESE DOWN #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:05 am

@westonWoodbury: RT @theriotisover: Oh #PostChat, if we've learned ANYTHING tonight it's that we all love zombies and glitter and star wipes. And fests are bunk timewasters. <3 – September 15, 2011, 2:05 am

@randy_e_lee: @westonWoodbury Fests are far from time wasters if you're doing it right. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:06 am

@theriotisover: @NinjaKittay wooohoooo watch out WATCH OUT #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:06 am

@NinjaKittay: SO true! RT @theriotisover: Oh #PostChat, if weve learned ANYTHING tonight its that we all love zombies and glitter and star wipes. <3 – September 15, 2011, 2:06 am

@LosAngelesPost: THX for the chat! #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:07 am

@FinalCutWhiz: Things I learned during #PostChat: add tons of star wipes, glitter effects, and zombies. LMAO! – September 15, 2011, 2:07 am

@FinalCutWhiz: Great chat guys, thank you!! See ya next week! #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:08 am

@natums: @randy_e_lee @westonWoodbury What have you gotten out of fests? #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:11 am

@macgarp: @theriotisover yes! I use star wipes all the time in news…. NOT. lol but I do love ZOMBIES #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:12 am

@kukrisna: RT @jamiecobbeditor: Best part of festival experiences is seeing an audience react to your work on the big screen #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:14 am

@randy_e_lee: @natums @westonWoodbury I've made contacts who I've worked with later. I've also seen other filmmakers get exposure a plenty. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:15 am

@randy_e_lee: @natums @westonWoodbury I'm a hired gun. As an editor or colorist, I don't personally get much from them. Directors/Producers do. #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:16 am

@theriotisover: @macgarp You should work one in. See if anyone notices. EDITOR CHALLENGE. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:17 am

@chernowa: @randy_e_lee i don't think i've followed #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:19 am

@etchie: I just realized I missed tonight's #postchat for the first time. I'll have to read the transcript when I get the chance. – September 15, 2011, 2:23 am

@adoxography_: RT @artguillotine: RT @jamiecobbeditor: Sadly, best way to judge "best editing" is to see all the footage they had to work w/ Subjective by default. #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:24 am

@mediacircustv: Crap, I missed #PostChat – September 15, 2011, 2:33 am

@Dr0id: RT @TejBabra: Thank you to everyone for joining tonight's Post Chat. See you all next week. ( and star wipe to black ) #postchat – September 15, 2011, 2:36 am

PostChat #14 Logs: Documentary & Reality Editing

This week we talked about how to find and maintain the tone of a scene in everything from documentaries to web series pilots. We also discussed keyboard shortcuts for Final Cut Pro, Avid Media Composer and any NLE that people wanted to share.

This week we had roughly 475 tweets from 47 active tweeters.

Moderators: @dr0id, @tejbabra, @TyLeisher, @artguillotine

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TejBabra Welcome to Post Chat everyone. Tonight we discuss Docs and Reality series ! #Postchat -6:01 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TyLeisher @TejBabra I’m sure the LAPD is none too happy with my driving skills though #postchat -6:01 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
westonWoodbury Will probably skip out on this one due to due stuff. Will browse back through and read up on the goodness! #postchat #postchat -6:01 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @westonWoodbury cool. good luck. #PostChat -6:02 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @westonWoodbury we will it up later too #Postchat -6:02 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id Any reality series cutters out there? I know it’s a staple of post work here in #NYC. #PostChat -6:03 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra Onlineing a doc can be difficult yet very rewarding. #Postchat -6:03 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
toddzelin IT’S A TRAP! RT @Dr0id It’s time for #PostChat! Tonight we are chatting about cutting Reality and DocuDramas. #PostChat -6:03 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @TejBabra how so? #PostChat -6:03 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id ha! :/ RT @toddzelin: ITS A TRAP! RT @Dr0id Its time for #PostChat! Tonight we are chatting about cutting Reality and DocuDramas. #PostChat -6:04 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor I definitely fall into the reality category and a lot of work in DC is going in that direction. #PostChat -6:04 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @toddzelin do you really think it’s a trap? #PostChat -6:04 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @Dr0id all the different formats in a doc, i.e codecs, tapes, footgae, stock, and even frame sizes. Conforming them all #Postchat -6:05 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AvidAsstEditor Discovery is in DC right? #PostChat -6:05 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @Dr0id @AvidAsstEditor They are! Amazing place ! Love DC #Postchat -6:06 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @TejBabra do you conform as you ingest or as you output your deliverable? #PostChat -6:06 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
toddzelin @Dr0id The money is a trap. It’s better than most editing jobs out there. Get used to the $$, adjust your lifestyle, trapped. #PostChat -6:06 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AvidAsstEditor what kind of Reality work are you cutting? #PostChat -6:06 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id Yup! (Actually Silver Spring, MD) but they farm out a lot of their stuff. #PostChat -6:07 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw I don’t care if the tempeh is done, I’m late for #postchat. Oh, hi everybody! -6:07 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor Was working on Swamp Brothers and did some Travel Channel work (show doesn’t have a name yet) now doing promos #PostChat -6:07 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @toddzelin did you feel trapped because you didn’t like the type of work? You intended to go a different direction? #PostChat -6:08 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @jamesnw Hiya! Glad you could make it! #PostChat -6:08 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @toddzelin @Dr0id I actually enjoy cutting reality – something about getting to craft the story in the suite.. #PostChat -6:08 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @jamesnw ha! hi! #PostChat -6:08 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @Dr0id normally conform b4 going 2 color. That means re-captureing D offline stuff, conform frame rates and sizes then go 2 color #Postchat -6:08 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TyLeisher How do you organize your footage? Do you do it differently than in a narrative? #postchat -6:08 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AlexLuster Hello fellow editors #PostChat -6:09 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @DylanReeve @toddzelin from my limited experience in reality, I felt a lot of freedom to help shape story. #PostChat -6:09 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
ejm634 I haven’t cut any reality TV but I’ve been on set for a few shows. It would be cool to see it from the post perspective now! #postchat -6:09 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
toddzelin On the plus side… I’ve learned more about story and manipulation from reality work than I would have in any other format #PostChat -6:09 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @TyLeisher in a Doc, it’s hard to do so as footage continues to come in as you are cutting. #Postchat -6:09 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AlexLuster welcome! No more shootSleepEdit? #PostChat -6:09 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw Is there an NLE of choice for reality shows? #postchat -6:09 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t I guess I do a lot of corporate reality/nonfic. It’s boring and not nearly as involved but I’ve managed some interesting pieces. #postchat -6:09 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @AlexLuster Hey Alex ! #Postchat -6:10 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @jamesnw: Is there an NLE of choice for reality shows? #PostChat -6:10 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @TyLeisher Definitely by day and then AEs have to go through and log all the broll and stuff. #PostChat -6:10 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @kyl33t Are they there to make friends? #postchat -6:11 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @toddzelin interesting I have never cut reality, I have learned a lot from docs though. #Postchat -6:11 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @ejm634 have you been able to see the end result of the reality work you saw from set? Was it very different than you thought? #PostChat -6:11 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @TyLeisher i utilize a lot of bins and lots of markers. much different than fiction, lots more hunting around. #postchat -6:11 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @toddzelin I have to agree. You stretch that footage to its limits! #PostChat -6:11 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @dr0id @toddzelin In at least one show I’ve worked on I was almost entirely responsible for the story. I got very loose storyline #postchat -6:11 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @jamesnw I’m Avid through and through but my last 2 jobs have been FCP. Avid and FCP need to have a baby. #PostChat -6:12 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
toddzelin Reality TV is just a hyper doc. #PostChat (that’s going to piss off some people I think ) -6:12 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @jamesnw which tweet are you replying to? lol. #postchat -6:12 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id What are some perks of cutting reality over say, fiction pieces? #PostChat -6:12 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @dr0id @jamesnw Same NLE choice as for all editing… Avid Media Composer #postchat -6:12 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
sedvideo Greetings. #PostChat -6:12 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @DylanReeve @dr0id @jamesnw Hear! Hear! Of course I am biased but who isn’t? #PostChat -6:13 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery .@kyl33t @tyleisher markers are possible the greatest tool I have made regular use of, for quick access and note taking. #Postchat -6:13 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @sedvideo welcome #PostChat -6:13 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @kyl33t Corporate reality videos , referring to this- http://t.co/PWnR9dY #postchat -6:13 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AvidAsstEditor @DylanReeve @jamesnw have to agree. Although I heart FCP 7 as well. #PostChat -6:13 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
toddzelin Unfortunately I can’t stick around for post chat. But I have a ton to say about reality Have fun guys! #PostChat -6:13 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @sedvideo Welcome to the chat ! #Postchat -6:13 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AlexLuster @Dr0id Def more of a challenge #PostChat -6:14 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @toddzelin thanks for popping in #PostChat -6:14 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
ejm634 @Dr0id I did get a chance for Farmer Wants a Wife in 2007. There were definitely some Franken-quotes going on in the interviews #PostChat -6:14 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @Lissa1979 I have yet to work on reality, but docs are the same it all depends on budget. Normally tight! #Postchat -6:15 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
artguillotine @TejBabra Like mixing Codecs eh Tej! #PostChat -6:15 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @ejm634 @Dr0id I do have a problem with Frankenbites. I want to make you sound better, not change what you said entirely. #PostChat -6:15 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @jamesnw OH LOL that is awesome. i could add a clip to that #postchat -6:16 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AvidAsstEditor @ejm634 do you feel like your creativity is found in BROLL? I know that’s how I felt cutting science docs. #PostChat -6:16 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery While not as fun drama wise, a lot of corporate and industrial content is very similar to reality in terms of style and format #postchat -6:16 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @glenmontgomery i used to subclip for organization. what a gd mistake that was. GAH. #postchat -6:17 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @artguillotine NO! That’s what was given to me to online plus an insane amount of frame rates, sizes, formats. But you do Gord! #Postchat -6:17 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @avidassteditor @ejm634 @Dr0id I’d tend not to use to change intent, only to clarify or shorten – paraphrase… #postchat #frankenbite -6:17 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
sedvideo @glenmontgomery thats mostly what I do, but in a host/SME format. #PostChat -6:17 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
ejm634 @AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id Although in the case I’m referring to she really was a reprehensible person. She kinda had it coming #PostChat #karma -6:17 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @artguillotine you are a doc master…any tips? #Postchat -6:17 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @ejm634 @AvidAsstEditor ha! oh no. #PostChat -6:18 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
toddzelin Sad part is i could probably talk for about 4 hours about cutting reality. #PostChat -6:18 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
artguillotine What does everyone think the ethical issues are for Frankbiting when cutting a Reality show #PostChat -6:18 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra RT @artguillotine: What does everyone think the ethical issues are for Frankbiting when cutting a Reality show #Postchat -6:18 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id @ejm634 Not to a great extent but I just love finding those great reaction shots and using them out of context! #PostChat -6:19 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id I know @theriotisover is currently cutting a doc on a great topic: Ghost Bikeshttp://t.co/wIF7Kf9 #PostChat -6:19 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery .@kyl33t ya I was never able to really make subclipping as beneficial as I had heard from others. Selects reels did work tho #Postchat -6:19 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t @glenmontgomery Really? why do you think so? #PostChat -6:19 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @artguillotine: What does everyone think the ethical issues are for Frankbiting when cutting a Reality show #PostChat -6:19 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @artguillotine As long as you don’t change what they meant, it’s something that has to be done. #postchat -6:19 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @artguillotine They are the ethics issues of the whole genre really. Reality is always massaged, so are the words. #postchat -6:19 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id opps, fixing that- I know @theriotisover is currently cutting a doc on a great topic: Ghost Bikes http://t.co/nJC4tXI #PostChat -6:20 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
couryc @TejBabra @artguillotine our sound guy had to frankenbite an entire season of LAInk last yr. Producers gave him an award as a joke #Postchat -6:20 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @artguillotine No different to cutting in a ‘disgusted’ reaction shot to change the meaning of someone’s line. #postchat -6:20 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NateOrloff @artguillotine I think 90% of the time they’re used to simply move story along faster. Usually harmless but sometimes, well… #PostChat -6:20 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery @sedvideo sme? #Postchat -6:20 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @DylanReeve @artguillotine good point Dylan. #Postchat -6:20 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
artguillotine @DylanReeve Great Point! #PostChat -6:21 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor subclips + media offline = huge pain. markers = happiness. #postchat -6:21 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
stevensantos @artguillotine It’s more than Frankenbiting. You can manipulate footage to basically create a moment that didn’t happen. #PostChat -6:21 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @couryc @TejBabra @artguillotine I feel sorry for that guy! #PostChat -6:21 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @Dr0id true story. I am against Frankenbites in doc unless it’s fr CLARITY. never switch word order otherwise. #PostChat -6:21 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t Do you mean locators or do you mean markers cause you are on FCP? #PostChat -6:22 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @couryc LOL that’s awesome. #postchat -6:22 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @Dr0id thank you fr mentioning the @ghostbikesfilm !! Finally starting to shameless promote myself and that project. hehe. #PostChat -6:22 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @theriotisover @Dr0id However it happens all the time in order to sell to the market #Postchat -6:22 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
officedr0ne RT @toddzelin: On the plus side… I’ve learned more about story and manipulation from reality work than I would have in any other format #PostChat -6:22 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @theriotisover @Dr0id I’m fanatical about removing “ums”. If you are an ummer, you won’t be by the time I am done with you! #PostChat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
2andahalfd I do it on occasion. As long as it doesn’t change the meaning of what the person said. I only cut mini-docs. #PostChat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @TejBabra @theriotisover and create drama. #PostChat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw Anyone hear the This American Life short story 2 weeks ago on a reality show? #postchat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor markers, i’m on fcp. #postchat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood just jumping in, how is everyone tonight? i love #postchat #PostChat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery @AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t arnt locators and markers the same concept, different NLE? #Postchat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
lucybirchley RT @rassnapp: I joke that editors are like bartenders for producer/dir. not sure what that means, but listen well and make strong drinks. #PostChat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @jamesnw I love this american life, but missed that one #PostChat -6:23 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @danielalexwood welcome! #PostChat -6:24 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t Got it. I am on FCP now. I need to see if markers on FCP are different for locators on Avid. #PostChat -6:24 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @Dr0id It’s in the Gossip Episode from 8/28. #postchat -6:24 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @Dr0id @TejBabra @theriotisover lot’s of it #Postchat -6:24 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @TejBabra @Dr0id Oh for the sake of story, building the moment works. But fr network reality TV, i’ve seen it ruin real lives. #PostChat -6:24 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor i would be interested to know as well. #postchat -6:25 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @dr0id @jamesnw Oh yeah, that was a beautiful story. So so good at summing up the reality of reality. #postchat -6:25 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @artguillotine do u feel the doc starts to tell it’s own story or do u fit it into the thread u went in with? #PostChat -6:26 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @theriotisover @TejBabra @Dr0id That is very true. A lot of people can’t handle their life under a microscope…the size of earth #PostChat -6:26 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor they are the same concept. FCP is more limited. #PostChat -6:26 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @theriotisover @TejBabra @Dr0id really…most of what I have seen here is scripted pretty tightly #Postchat -6:26 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @Dr0id of course it is #postchat -6:27 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery @kyl33t @avidassteditor it is pretty much the same, you can put on clip or on timeline with notes. Beautiful. #Postchat -6:27 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @Dr0id @artguillotine I think he is in a meeting with his director. BTW are you coming tomorrow? #Postchat -6:27 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @Dr0id I’ve found my docs often take off in a direction I wasn’t expecting, and I have to chase after the darn thing. #comeback! #postchat -6:27 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id @kyl33t Speaking of those dang markers. Shift+M moves to the next marker, how do you go backwards? #PostChat -6:27 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @TejBabra @theriotisover honestly, that is my experience as well. The people were real, but the story was not ‘reality’. #PostChat -6:27 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover ah, true. RT @DylanReeve: Reality is always massaged, so are the words. #PostChat -6:27 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @TejBabra @artguillotine wait. where? #PostChat -6:27 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @jamesnw: @Dr0id I’ve found my docs often take off in a direction I wasn’t expecting, and I have to chase after the darn thing. #comeback! #postchat -6:28 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
artguillotine @Dr0id I usually listen to the directors concept but then begin to amalgamate shots into groups of similarity. Later re-Assessing #PostChat -6:28 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
lucybirchley I feel like I have stumbled onto a secret society. I’m ready for initiation. #postchat -6:28 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @TejBabra @Dr0id I’m sure when exactly it was, but at some point “Reality” tv became self aware and it’s never been as fun fr me. #PostChat -6:28 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor option-M, i believe. #postchat -6:29 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @AvidAsstEditor I use Shift Up for previous marker, and Shift Down for next. #postchat -6:29 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover well then, you are welcome. RT @lucybirchley: I feel like I have stumbled onto a secret society. Im ready for initiation. #PostChat -6:29 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
editblog oh wow I forgot it’s #PostChat tonight. @philiphodgetts @andymees @adkimery and I have been having our own though off topic! -6:29 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Todd_Gill I’m late for #postchat… -6:29 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @lucybirchley welcome! #PostChat -6:29 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @Todd_Gill welcome! #PostChat -6:29 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @theriotisover @TejBabra @Dr0id interesting…so I just learned something new about reality. #Postchat -6:29 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
alisterrobbie id love to join the #postchat conversation today, but I have editing to do… -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve Check out Rebecca Makkai’s “The November Story” for an interesting (fictional) insight into reality TV – http://ow.ly/6okNo #postchat -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t You rock! #PostChat -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
ejm634 @lucybirchley Editors are such elusive folk. Like cave creatures hiding in our suites! #postchat -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @editblog @philiphodgetts @andymees @adkimery ha! Welcome. Talking all about cutting Reality tonight. #PostChat -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
digitalpostink What is the #postchat topic? -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NinjaKittay I think it’s hard to keep that fine line of keeping reality/docs true to the story but making it interesting sometimes. #postchat -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @digitalpostink Docs, and reality #Postchat -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @TejBabra @Dr0id fix: *NOT sure when. heh. Had to Build Moments, literally fake stuff; now prods are steering the confessionals. #PostChat -6:30 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @digitalpostink Cutting Reality and DocuDramas #PostChat -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
editblog @Dr0id yes I see. not a genre I’ve had the pleasure of working in much so I’m being a student of #postchat tonight -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi Hello #PostChat…I’m late and should be sleeping but I’m here. Sooo..reality huh? -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
digitalpostink Love cutting interview style docs #postchat -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t in college @ninjakittay & I did our first doc on jobless college grads. we found that the story unfolded on its own path. #postchat -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood are reality or docs the same thing? I think of reality and now that term has nothing to do with docs these days #PostChat -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @mikeapi yup. welcome! #PostChat -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @TejBabra @Dr0id I can think of some great examples of Built Moments, but not approp fr this public forum to call out. :/ #PostChat -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NinjaKittay @digitalpostink Love interview cutting, that’s primarily what I do freelance at the present. #postchat -6:31 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover I don’t consider them the same. RT @danielalexwood I think of reality and now that term has nothing to do with docs these days #PostChat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id Any advice for staying organized with a doc and reality? I’ve heard Markers/Locators. Anything else? #PostChat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
2andahalfd @mikeapi my homie! i’m late as well. making dinner and watching the knowledge be dropped. #PostChat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood cutting reality vs cutting docs are 2 very different things by todays terms. #PostChat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
ejm634 What do you guys think: Does mock-umentary fit in this discussion or is it a completely different animal? #postchat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NateOrloff RT @Dr0id: Any advice for staying organized with a doc and reality? I’ve heard Markers/Locators. Anything else? #PostChat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @mikeapi Oh HEY THERE DUDER yeah tonight’s yr night!! #PostChat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @danielalexwood: cutting reality vs cutting docs are 2 very different things by todays terms. #PostChat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @DylanReeve @theriotisover @dr0id I worked on several docs where the V/O tied with b-roll shifts the outcome of the film. #Postchat -6:32 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @digitalpostink that’s a majority of what i do right now. took it to a reality-show-esque level, fun. hard w/ the content i have. #postchat -6:33 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
lucybirchley @ejm634 I’m thinking of having a t-shirt made- “I’m NOT a vampire. I’m an Editor!” #postchat -6:33 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @mikeapi WAIT have you met @2andahalfd before i did??? pfft. #PostChat -6:33 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @theriotisover you can probably turn on Bravo or TLC and see loads of examples of em anyway #postchat -6:33 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @ejm634 I think it has place in reality. It has a level of “realism” to it although there may be more pre-pro than reality shows. #PostChat -6:33 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @editblog ditto. #postchat -6:33 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @theriotisover @Dr0id maybe another time. #Postchat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @dr0id I use clip colour pretty heavily in docs, and some reality. Colour characters, or challenges or days as appropriate. #postchat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @lucybirchley i would buy one or five. #postchat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @TejBabra @DylanReeve @dr0id By outcome, do you mean it fictionalizes events? Or outright constructs a falsehood? #PostChat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @Dr0id Have an organization plan laid out before you start logging. Categories, Comments, etc. What metadata you need to have. #postchat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t RT @lucybirchley: @ejm634 Im thinking of having a t-shirt made- “Im NOT a vampire. Im an Editor!” #postchat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
digitalpostink I uses a lot of sub clipping back in the day. to help orginize. #postchat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi I’ve cut almost nothing but reality…regardless of your ethics, there is a ton of work (+ we were Unaffected by writers strike) #PostChat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
DylanReeve @dr0id Makes if very easy to visualise overall story flow in the whole timeline. #postchat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @DylanReeve: I use clip colour pretty heavily in docs, & some reality. Colour characters, or challenges or days as appropriate #PostChat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @jamesnw @Dr0id Some of that stuff originates on set which means it doesn’t always make it back to post. #PostChat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @kyl33t Ahhh but if it’s well done you CAN’T tell. These days i can usually tell the fakery and hear the fed lines. #PostChat -6:34 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
2andahalfd @theriotisover @mikeapi no, but i heard it’s his dream….word though. he’s got the good eats recommedations. #PostChat -6:35 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood has anyone used the plugins for avid that are text/phonetic search as never done much in that area? do you use this for docs? #PostChat -6:35 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
digitalpostink #postchat -6:35 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
ejm634 @lucybirchley “Red Bull not blood!” #editingfood #PostChat -6:35 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @theriotisover @DylanReeve @dr0id Well that depends on the director/producer view they want to portray. 2 gain controversy. #Postchat -6:35 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NinjaKittay @kyl33t @lucybirchley one for everyday of the week hah! #postchat -6:35 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @mikeapi There is a ton of work but I like working on “soft” reality as opposed to “hard” reality. #PostChat -6:35 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @mikeapi Reality is THE ever present gig in NYC. #PostChat -6:35 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery .@Dr0id reels(seqs) based on topics or interviews that you can toggle between. Sorry forgot the tag #postchat -6:36 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @theriotisover yea and a lot of the ones where you can tell are littered all over my tv. #postchat -6:36 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AvidAsstEditor @mikeapi can you tell me more about ‘soft’ and ‘hard’ reality? I’m new to the term. #PostChat -6:36 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @glenmontgomery uhoh. had a me moment with the tag? @Dr0id #PostChat -6:36 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood RT @Dr0id: @AvidAsstEditor @mikeapi can you tell me more about soft and hard reality? Im new to the term. #PostChat -6:36 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @jamesnw: @Dr0id Have an organization plan laid out before you start logging. Categories, Comments, etc. What metadata you need to have. #postchat -6:36 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t So reality seems really prevalent, but how does one go about finding a reality gig of any sort? #postchat -6:37 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery @mikeapi are you freelancing in a production house or with networks for reality shows? #Postchat -6:37 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi Staying organized for me is locators and selects. I map “make subclip” to one key, and make selex instantly on first watch @Dr0id #postchat -6:37 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
artguillotine RT @jamesnw:Have an organization plan laid out before you start logging. Categories, Comments, etc What metadata you need to have. #PostChat -6:37 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @glenmontgomery @Dr0id I organize accord to individuals in d Doc. then I can pull up all of their content. Too bad no scriptsync. #Postchat -6:37 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id @mikeapi Reality shows where the raw footage could receive an X rating on air & others that you could watch with your mom #PostChat -6:38 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover RT @mikeapi: Staying organized for me is locators & selects. I map “make subclip” to 1 key, & make selex instantly on first watch #PostChat -6:38 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @TejBabra: @Dr0id I organize accord to individuals in d Doc. then I can pull up all of their content. Too bad no scriptsync. #PostChat -6:38 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood makes me question what reality is, you cant go into something with an outcome you want and still call it “reality” #PostChat -6:38 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra Please don’t injest hours of tape for me with as one giant clip! That’s not cool or funny ! #Postchat -6:38 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t Realitystaff.com, mandy.com, craigslist.com, entertainmentcareers.net & networking! #PostChat -6:39 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Todd_Gill RT @TejBabra: Please don’t injest hours of tape for me with as one giant clip! That’s not cool or funny ! #Postchat -6:39 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @danielalexwood fair point #postchat -6:39 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @TejBabra OMG HORRIBLE. i mean at least stick some locators on it #PostChat -6:39 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor thanks! #postchat -6:39 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra How do you even get a clip with continuous timecode to produce a big clip? #PostChat -6:39 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @kyl33t for me, it was networking. #PostChat -6:40 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
ejm634 @AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t I second the use of Mandy. It and Craigslist have been very good to me! #postchat -6:40 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi Ive freelanced for independent prod companies, never done any post house gigs @glenmontgomery #postchat -6:40 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @danielalexwood I worked with a British production team, they called it “actuality” and i wasn’t sure why: R word a bad word? #PostChat -6:40 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id @kyl33t Me too but I haven’t gotten a gig or two from the mass mailing of resumes. #PostChat -6:40 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @DylanReeve In reality I see Unscripted Drama (Jersey Shore), Challenge (Survivor) and Observational (Cops) #postchat -6:41 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @Dr0id @avidassteditor and of course being in nyc or LA apparently is helpful. any other locations big on reality? #postchat -6:41 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @theriotisover @danielalexwood The Brits are funny that way. The bathroom is a loo, are you really going to listen to them? #PostChat -6:41 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @danielalexwood ..think they wanted to avoid “reality” since they did more of a docu feel. They steered but didn’t stage moments. #PostChat -6:41 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @theriotisover ask the assistant that! Each #HDCAM tape Ingested as one clip for me. Not funny at all 22 tapes #Postchat -6:41 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery @theriotisover haha yes I did. Always happens when I #postchat from the phone. -6:41 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood reality seems interesting especially behind how you organize bins and such cause I feel I wood organize stuff very differently #PostChat -6:41 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @kyl33t @avidassteditor Atlanta, DC #PostChat -6:41 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover good assess! agree RT @DylanReeve In reality I see Unscripted Drama (Jersey Shore), Challenge (Survivor) and Observational (Cops) #PostChat -6:42 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
harveyhead @TejBabra I always limited it to about 10 min clips. #PostChat -6:42 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t @Dr0id I think North Carolina has some big post houses and ol’ DC too! #PostChat -6:42 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover @AvidAsstEditor @danielalexwood hehe.. not sure if it was culture or trying to avoid genre taint. Show was fr US&UK air. 6 parts. #PostChat -6:42 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra @theriotisover That really blows! Sounds like they are recording in free-run timecode instead of TOD. #PostChat -6:43 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @harveyhead yes a good idea. too bad my assistant that day had other plans. Made working on the doc much more difficult #Postchat -6:43 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood @theriotisover yeah I felt that but maybe im just too optimistic, i know how much is staged/edited but wish there was(continued.. #PostChat -6:43 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id Any tricks for grouping/multi-clipping media for your doc that is not ‘time of day’, etc? #PostChat -6:43 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id How many cameras and are they stopping and starting? I LOVE multigrouping! #PostChat -6:44 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra @theriotisover I was not even aware Avid could capture all of that in one shot. lol #Postchat -6:44 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @Dr0id try resizing and re-postioning #Postchat -6:44 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood some kind of label saying “this has been edited to not be really real” just like you see the disclaimer for movies on TV that…. #PostChat -6:44 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra @theriotisover If you have the space, Avid will capture forever! #PostChat -6:45 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood ….that have been reformatted and edited for content #PostChat -6:45 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AvidAsstEditor can you give us some of your techniques and tricks for grouping? #PostChat -6:45 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesdrakefilms Recommended tips on editing Red Epic footage with Avid Media Composer 5.5? #postchat -6:45 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @DylanReeve What category does The Office fall under? #postchat -6:45 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @jamesnw @DylanReeve ha! #PostChat -6:45 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra @theriotisover I guess so ! #Postchat -6:46 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id I don’t even know where to start! Can I cop out and say it will all be in my book? I can’t do it in 130 characters! #PostChat -6:46 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood RT @Dr0id: @AvidAsstEditor can you give us some of your techniques and tricks for grouping? #PostChat -6:46 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t What is up with the light cymbal tap sound that seems to always accompany reaction shots on reality cooking shows? #postchat -6:46 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
EditorLiam @kyl33t check out realitystaff.com a job site dedicated to just getting reality jobs #postchat -6:47 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AvidAsstEditor ha! Fair enough. I remember that was my biggest challenge/time suck on the reality show i was on. #PostChat -6:47 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t Our way of telling you to pay attention! It is called a cymbal scrape and I use it all the time! #PostChat -6:47 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @kyl33t ha! Or record scratch when something embarrassing happens. #PostChat -6:47 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @EditorLiam: @kyl33t check out realitystaff.com a job site dedicated to just getting reality jobs #PostChat -6:47 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood @jamesnw it falls under amazing, i know no other show that makes me feel so anxious in the editing of Michael and his actions #PostChat -6:48 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id I can imagine. It kills AEs the world over. #PostChat -6:48 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @Dr0id @kyl33t I love that one! Cymbal swell and some sorta hit are iny my sfx favorites bin. #PostChat -6:48 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra Best quote of the day goes to Dylan“@DylanReeve: @avidassteditor @TejBabra @theriotisover That’s no free-run, that’s rec-run…” #PostChat -6:48 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood @kyl33t im gonnna look for that now, yeah edit evnironments that compete with one another just cause the other is doing it… #PostChat -6:49 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @danielalexwood @jamesnw what about David Brent? #PostChat -6:49 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor it seems really overused on the dumb shows i watch. “your food sucked” cut to cu, crestfallen cook, CYMBAL. x100 #postchat -6:49 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mediacircustv After 13 years working in broadcast tv, mostly in promotions, I am putting together my first documentary #postchat -6:49 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi Make a bunch of groups as opposed to one group with 8 broken clips. Even tho its 2cam, its still 8 streams, slowing u down @Dr0id #postchat -6:49 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jasonkonoza @EditorLiam @kyl33t Also follow @realityjobs #PostChat -6:49 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @TejBabra @DylanReeve @avidassteditor @theriotisover can’t help but think, ‘that’s no moon’. #geek #PostChat -6:49 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t LOL! If I don’t put it in, you better believe someone in the audio mix is! #PostChat -6:50 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @danielalexwood Agreed. I’m awful with awkwardness on TV, and physically recoil or have to leave the room when Michael talks. #postchat -6:50 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @mediacircustv nice! What’s the topic? #PostChat -6:50 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mediacircustv I have an assistant editor @PurestOfEvil for the doc and I will be doing the fine cut, we are both using #Avid #PostChat -6:50 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor that said, i’ve used them too not so much the scratch…LOL #postchat -6:50 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AlexLuster @mediacircustv hey!.. that’s about how long I worked in promo before putting together my first doc #PostChat -6:50 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
danielalexwood if you were to ask the DP/camero ops to setup there stuff in a certain way for multicam/reality editng, what should i ask? #PostChat -6:51 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @jasonkonoza @EditorLiam thanks! i’ll check all those out. #postchat -6:51 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NinjaKittay @AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t spose it’s better than certain other effects, imagine w/ moo’ing cow instead? lol. #postchat -6:51 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @Dr0id The one where he tries to tell a racist joke… or really any joke at all… so good. #postchat -6:51 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery @mikeapi @dr0id awesome grouping tip. Never really get to use that tool #Postchat -6:51 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id 10 more min of Post Chat this week. We are chatting about cutting Reality and DocuDramas. Jump in! #PostChat -6:51 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @AlexLuster @mediacircustv I would love to do a doc. Stretch my legs a bit, so to speak. Reality is so fast! #PostChat -6:51 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @NinjaKittay i’ve seen a mooing cow used as a punctuation on a show, so there’s that. #postchat -6:52 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra RT @Dr0id: 10 more min of Post Chat this week. We are chatting about cutting Reality and DocuDramas. Jump in! #Postchat -6:52 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @NinjaKittay @AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t or crickets #PostChat -6:52 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
pcarpenter @Dr0id vari-fi audio tools plugin for mc5.5 works great as a music stop to really nail the funny #postchat -6:52 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @mikeapi: Make a bunch of groups as opposed to one group with 8 broken clips. Even tho its 2cam, its still 8 streams, slowing u down @Dr0id #postchat -6:52 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi I wonder when we’ll get past the faux-tension trend (the dramatic drumscore buildup to the reveal). Next Top model, chopped, etc. #PostChat -6:52 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @danielalexwood Jam synced cameras, don’t turn off the cameras, time of day timecode & all of them drop frame or non-drop frame! #PostChat -6:52 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id nice! RT @pcarpenter: @Dr0id vari-fi audio tools plugin for mc5.5 works great as a music stop to really nail the funny #PostChat -6:53 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
EditorLiam RT @Dr0id: 10 more min of Post Chat this week. We are chatting about cutting Reality and DocuDramas. Jump in! #PostChat -6:53 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @AlexLuster @mediacircustv There a great pacing to docs a flow…that hold the attention. U would enjoy it. #Postchat -6:53 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AlexLuster @Dr0id decided to use my real name..Will eventually use SES for company account #postchat -6:53 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t If you cut reality and the end of your show leads immediately into the next ep of the show, I hate you. Now I can’t stop watching. #postchat -6:54 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NinjaKittay @mikeapi I think it’ll be awhile before that ever dies down. So many shows follow that sort of format. Ppl find it entertaining. #postchat -6:54 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra @AlexLuster @mediacircustv I can’t wait to do it! #PostChat -6:54 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id What draws you to working on Docs and Reality? #PostChat -6:54 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi Like any other field, try breaking into reality via AE or nighttime or junior editor spot. At a smaller co., you can move up fast #PostChat -6:54 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id @AlexLuster nice. Glad you kept the same avatar so I could tell who you are. #PostChat -6:54 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery Outside if the storytelling issues we’ve discussed tonight, the effects and transitions in reality are what drive me up a wall. #postchat -6:55 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
jamesnw @mikeapi Don’t forget… tension build… tension build… scared look… Commercial break lasts forever… tension rebuild… #postchat -6:55 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NinjaKittay YES! xD RT @kyl33t: If you cut reality and the end of your show leads immediately into the next ep of the show, I hate you. #postchat -6:56 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @jamesnw @mikeapi LOL! I want a bumper sticker that says that! #PostChat -6:56 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @alexluster @mediacircustv @avidassteditor You will like it. I have worked promos as well they are such a different beast to docs #Postchat -6:56 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi The whole creation of a story from what u have as opposed to takes of a script. “@Dr0id: What draws you to work on Docs/Reality? #PostChat” -6:56 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover LOL RT @jamesnw: @mikeapi Tension build… tension build… scared look… Commercial break lasts forever… tension rebuild… #PostChat -6:56 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @mikeapi: The whole creation of a story from what u have as opposed to takes of a script. “@Dr0id: What draws you to work on Docs/Reality? #PostChat” -6:56 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @jamesnw @mikeapi tease one semi-dramatic event for 45 minutes, pay-off is boring. #postchat -6:56 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
pcarpenter @glenmontgomery i think those come into play when you have weak material to work with #postchat -6:56 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AlexLuster @Dr0id yeah I figured it might confuse some if I changed that too #postchat -6:57 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery .@Dr0id what draws me to docs is learning so much about a specific topic. Most time you as the editor know more than anyone #Postchat -6:57 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id RT @glenmontgomery: .@Dr0id what draws me to docs is learning so much about a specific topic. Most time you as the editor know more than anyone #Postchat -6:57 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AlexLuster @mediacircustv illegal street art.. I spent 3 years shooting it and a little less than a year cutting #postchat -6:57 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mediacircustv this is cool, didn’t know about #PostChat before tonight, just decide to see what was happening on twitter -6:58 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @glenmontgomery @Dr0id That is why getting a history channel gig would be the highlight of my camera. Long form learning! #PostChat -6:58 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @glenmontgomery that’s really true. as an editor, you can be so many different things & explore a lot of different paths. #postchat -6:58 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AlexLuster @AvidAsstEditor @TejBabra @mediacircustv def rewarding to see it done #postchat -6:58 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
kyl33t @AvidAsstEditor i know, my ultimate is to work for discovery. that would be beyond amazing. #postchat -6:59 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery A recent advertising micro-doc where I learned a TON about vinyl/audiophile equipment http://t.co/ZnY7Z79 #postchat -6:59 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi don’t forget your head-of-act recap where you eat up some TRT repeating the buildup so u can stretch your exciting end @jamesnw #postchat -6:59 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @mediacircustv Welcome. I hope you enjoyed it. #Postchat -6:59 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
EditorLiam @Dr0id the few corp & spec docs ive cut ive enjoyed, they are just a different beast… usually way more creative choices to make #postchat -6:59 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
AvidAsstEditor @kyl33t Until you work for them. Where are you based? I know some Discovery peeps in LA. (I think) #PostChat -6:59 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
NinjaKittay @glenmontgomery I really enjoy the depth into a specific topic too, and the stories and history behind it and the people involved. #postchat -6:59 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
mikeapi I honestly meant to unexciting…damn autocorrect @mikeapi @jamesnw #postchat -7:00 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
glenmontgomery I think @rassnapp has it great cutting travel docs all day, just hope he gets to visit one day #postchat -7:00 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
theriotisover RT @mikeapi: dont forget your head-of-act recap where you eat up some TRT repeating the buildup so u can stretch your exciting end #PostChat -7:00 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
TejBabra @AvidAsstEditor @glenmontgomery @Dr0id History Channel here is playing a lot of weird stuff. Like Star Wars. #Postchat -7:00 PM Sep 7th, 2011
 
Dr0id Okay, that’s Post Chat for this week. Thanks for keeping it real. Transcripts will be up soon. Go make something awesome! #PostChat -7:00 PM Sep 7th, 2011

PostChat Logs #13: What To Do After College To Start Your Editing Career

Unfortunately, the first part of the logs were not logged by our logging website. I think we got most of them though.

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@JBH8: RT @jasonkonoza: Before entering TV school (@nait) I had to do a “career investigation report” Made me decide editing was the route I wanted to go. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:06 am

@TejBabra: I think find a good mentor is important!n #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:06 am

@howardberry: Hi all, I run three Film and TV undergraduate degrees in the UK #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:07 am

@KimHuston: Coming from a non-coast, I think it would have made a world of difference. The other thing I tell people is: move to a coast #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:07 am

@NateOrloff: Going to film school was essential for me. It was a big kick-in-the-teeth and I needed it. Learned a lot. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:07 am

@Dr0id: @howardberry welcome Howard! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:07 am

@TejBabra: RT @KimHuston: My main 2¢ is that I wish my school had told me about the A.C.E. internship. found out about it when it was 2 late #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:07 am

@toddzelin: @NateOrloff Some advice would be nice… not just telling the world how awesome you are #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:07 am

@jamiecobbeditor: Agreed RT @KimHuston: My main 2¢ is that I wish my school had told me about the A.C.E. internship. I found out too late. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:08 am

@NateOrloff: .@toddzelin working on it! I’m getting there #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:08 am

@theriotisover: @howardberry hi! What advice on a Post career path do you give incoming students? #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:08 am

@grking: RT @Dr0id: Post Pro’s, what advice would you give to new up and coming editor’s pre-graduation? #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:08 am

@kyl33t: @KimHuston i wish i had known about that too. i applied for it right after i graduated. wasn’t eligible again. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:08 am

@TejBabra: @Dr0id I went with a small 6TB Caldigit raid to keep me going #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:08 am

@Dr0id: @KimHuston I agree. I was going to school at a place that was going to give me a media arts degree. had to move to get the right 1 #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:08 am

@jamesnw: What are thoughts on Liberal Arts vs Film School? #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:09 am

@Dr0id: RT @theriotisover: @howardberry hi! What advice on a Post career path do you give incoming students? #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:09 am

@NateOrloff: The main things that are important is the network of ppl you create. The people I worked with I’m still close everyday with. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:09 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: Get an internship with a small house. Dont get all excited by the bright lights of answering telephones & delivering mail #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:09 am

@Dr0id: @theriotisover you’re Post Chatting after all. hearts! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:09 am

@aehric: Didn’t have the benefit of going to a proper #post school. Still work daily. Have to have passion and drive like any entrepreneur. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:09 am

@kyl33t: School is not a necessity for many. But here in the midwest where HR ppl do a lot of hiring, it becomes one. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:09 am

@TejBabra: @BadBoyOfEditing very good advice! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:09 am

@howardberry: @theriotisover I always tell them to watch lots and lots, read lots and lots, and really think about storytelling and narrative. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@jamesnw: I tell students pre-graduation to make a lot of videos. It helps in learning the process, tools, and is portfolio material. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@theriotisover: @BadBoyOfEditing Interning at a small house was key fr me; got more hands-on and more Q&A time with Editors. Recommend fr every1. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@NateOrloff: Ppl like @adammfox @RLBuchanan and others… it’s all about people. You never know who might call you up one day with a gig. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@joetombarello: RT @jamesnw: I tell students pre-graduation to make a lot of videos. It helps in learning the process, tools, and is portfolio material. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@kyl33t: How many of you with a degree have a BS? I feel like most have a BA. I got a BS. My program had a shit load of computer science. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@toddzelin: The only thing school did for me was get me my internship. That started my career. I learned everything I know on the job. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@zaffi: Best advice I can give to any aspiring editors in school is to keep practicing your craft. The more u do, the better u become #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@adoxography_: One of the best things that worked for me was getting into News Editing first. Quick decision making, deadlines & storytelling #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@Dr0id: RT @jamesnw: I tell students pre-grad to make a lot of videos. It helps in learning the process, tools, and is portfolio material. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@Dr0id: RT @howardberry: I always tell them to watch lots and lots, read lots and lots, and really think about storytelling and narrative. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:10 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @theriotisover yup me too, i went from intern to lead editor in 2 months at a small house #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:11 am

@artguillotine: RT @jamesnw: I tell students pre-grad to make a lot of videos. It helps in learning the process, tools, and is portfolio material. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:11 am

@jamesnw: More chances to create RT @BadBoyOfEditing: Get an internship with a small house. Dont get all excited by the bright lights… #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:11 am

@pirid: @Dr0id ya have to really REALLY enjoy it. Not glamor. Not $$. If you enjoy and work super hard you’ll make it. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:11 am

@jasonkonoza: @NateOrloff Yes! The industry is small, you must keep up a good rep. That’s so important when starting out. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:11 am

@Dr0id: @craigbergonzoni ohh, tag #postchat on that. It’s a great post. September 1, 2011, 1:11 am

@kyl33t: The biggest thing I tell ppl in college: don’t leave w/o at least one internship or you’ll be sorry. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@NateOrloff: But I got my first real gig out college via Twitter actually. I blogged the story here: http://cl.ly/9mU6 #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@westonWoodbury: great tips so far! I’m still a part time student, so listening attentively. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@TejBabra: @BadBoyOfEditing @theriotisover I am still an intern #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@artguillotine: I usually tell students, build a group, 1 DP, 1 editor, 1 prod, 1 sound, 1 direct. Make a movie a month, dif. genre each month #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@jamesnw: Granted, a lot of my college videos were terrible, but some were pretty dang awesome #ifIMustSaySoMyself #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@joetombarello: @adoxography_ My Teachers Told Me Not To Get Into News Editing… Then I Did And It Has Been The Greatest Ride Since! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@NateOrloff: RT @artguillotine: I usually tell students, build a group, 1 DP, 1 editor, 1 prod, 1 sound, 1 direct. Make a movie a month, dif. genre each month #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@KimHuston: @kyl33t Yeah, I heard about it like 3 years after graduating. I was definitely way past qualifying I applied anyway! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@theriotisover: Agree RT @kyl33t: The biggest thing I tell ppl in college: dont leave w/o at least one internship or youll be sorry. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@TejBabra: @artguillotine hey how are you? LOL! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@Dr0id: completely agree RT @pirid: @Dr0id have to really REALLY enjoy it. Not glamor, or $$. If u enjoy and work super hard youll make it #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@kyl33t: @BadBoyOfEditing that’s awesome! the post house i interned at died right after i finished up. MEH. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@howardberry: Students really shouldn’t close themselves off to anything. Film school is their chance to experiment and learn with freedom. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@etchie: @TejBabra forgot to add #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@NateOrloff: @artguillotine Come to think of it, that’s what I did incidentally :p #PostChat @adammfox @RLBuchanan September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@Dr0id: @TejBabra you are awesome. @BadBoyOfEditing @theriotisover #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:12 am

@theriotisover: RT @BadBoyOfEditing: Small house offered me Edit seat within 4 months; long story short I turned it down fr other life reasons. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:13 am

@Dr0id: @artguillotine welcome, buddy #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:13 am

@chrisgruggen: RT @artguillotine: RT @jamesnw: I tell students pre-grad to make a lot of videos. It helps in learning the process, tools, and is portfolio material. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:13 am

@jamesnw: 1 of my internships was at a place w/ a media department of 1. They sent me to Honduras for 3 months, & I made a video for an NGO #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:13 am

@joetombarello: @jamesnw College Projects Define A Person’s Raw Creativity. Even More So On The High School Level. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:13 am

@artguillotine: @NateOrloff If their crap, learn from them if their good send em’ to fests. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:13 am

@theriotisover: RT @howardberry Students rly shouldnt close themselves off to anythng. Film school is the chance to experiment & learn w/ freedom. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:13 am

@NinjaKittay: Internships are imperative, and don’t be shy to search out opportunities. Don’t rely on career services to provide ones for you. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:13 am

@theriotisover: @Dr0id yeah but i’m kinda “quiet” lol #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:14 am

@adoxography_: @joetombarello It was good to learn about the various degrees of stress levels one has to deal with #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:14 am

@NateOrloff: Has anyone *ever* gotten a gig via websites like Mandy.com or craigstlist? I know ppl who’ve tried and I tried when I started #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:14 am

@kyl33t: @jamesnw that’s amazing! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:14 am

@TejBabra: @etchie It was on sale here 7bills #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:14 am

@craigbergonzoni: @Dr0id Work 4 free! Volunteer if you can’t intern. Its worth it.Work your ass off & make a good impression with lots of people! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:14 am

@Dr0id: For me, I worked for free while n school. Was lead editing TV before I left. School was my safety net to work for little/no $. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:14 am

@kyl33t: Remember that school is the time to take risks, work for free, ask favors. You have access that closes off after graduating. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@theriotisover: Echoing everyone else, DO NOT MISS CHANCES TO INTERN AND LEARN. Do lots of projects. Cuz once you graduate, you will have bills. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@Dr0id: @NateOrloff I did. It wasn’t good, but I made a connection that I can link my current job too. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@howardberry: Students should really look around for a college that will include work experience as part of the programme (or find their own). #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@theriotisover: THIS RT @kyl33t: Remember that school is the time to take risks, work for free, ask favors. ..access closes off after graduating. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@NateOrloff: RT @Dr0id: @NateOrloff I did. It wasn’t good, but I made a connection that I can link my current job too. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@TejBabra: Find a master and learn. like Jedi and Padwa or Drill Sergeant and Private. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@kyl33t: @theriotisover BILLS BILLS BILLS for real. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@robgwilson: @NateOrloff yeah I’ve booked stuff of C-list. Nothing great, but it paid when i needed it. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@Dr0id: yes RT @theriotisover: DO NOT MISS CHANCES TO INTERN AND LEARN. Do lots of projects. Cuz once you graduate, you will have bills. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:15 am

@Dr0id: @kyl33t brilliant #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@TejBabra: @howardberry do those even exist? #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@adoxography_: @joetombarello Every now and again I go back to do a bit of current affairs editing to get away from all the ‘snazzy’ stuff #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@NateOrloff: @robgwilson @jctucker @Dr0id good to know. it never worked out for me. then again, that’s when I had no credits #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@howardberry: RT @kyl33t: Remember that school is the time to take risks, work for free, ask favors. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@theriotisover: Amazeballs. RT @TejBabra: Find a master and learn. like Jedi and Padwa or Drill Sergeant and Private. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@etchie: @TejBabra not bad! I always equate Caldigit with expensive. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@toddzelin: The biggest piece of advice I can give for a first job. Keep your held down, mouth closed, and when you open it, ask questions. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@TejBabra: @BadBoyOfEditing @theriotisover sure Liam. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:16 am

@deftjester: Has anyone heard anything good about Video Symphony in Burbank? #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@Dr0id: ‘Always two there are’ RT @TejBabra: Find a master and learn. like Jedi and Padwa or Drill Sergeant and Private. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@NateOrloff: RT @toddzelin: The biggest piece of advice I can give for a 1st job. Keep ur held down, mouth closed, & when you open it, ask ?s. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@kyl33t: I did a talk about this at my school last fall & summarized it in my blog: http://t.co/g5adpDA #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@howardberry: @TejBabra My course offered over 40 work experience places last year! 20 with one of the UK’s top indie TV production companies. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@joetombarello: You Have To Be Thirsty To Make It. When I Was In School All They Required Was 1 internship, So I Did 3. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@ABAOProductions: RT @Dr0id: yes RT @theriotisover: DO NOT MISS CHANCES TO INTERN AND LEARN. Do lots of projects. Cuz once you graduate, you will have bills. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@TejBabra: @etchie yeah it was not bad at all. Also hot swappable and easy set up #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@NateOrloff: @Dr0id @TejBabra I am very happy to have just found “my” editor I’m learning from. This is my second feature w/her #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:17 am

@artguillotine: Listen and analyze each piece of info given to you. you can disagree but don’t snap to judgements before you’ve truly understood #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:18 am

@rassnapp: Even after school it’s okay to try different things. I was a location manager then associate producer before I went editing path #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:18 am

@jasonkonoza: @TejBabra I’m still inspired by the cutter who show me to use #Avid (which I wasn’t allowed to touch, because I was a intern lol) #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:18 am

@theriotisover: School is a to make friends and build yr rep: as always, don’t be a dick. Pay it forward. Karma’s only a bitch if you are. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:18 am

@Dr0id: Also, be grateful. The world, and the film community don’t owe you anything. Get in there and do a great job, say ‘thanks’. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:18 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: Between u and me i edited 7 knitting & crochet DVDs before i cut my first feature film. Doing the hard yards is never glamorous #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:18 am

@Dr0id: @theriotisover so true #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:18 am

@c0ina: RT @theriotisover: School is a to make friends and build yr rep: as always, don’t be a dick. Pay it forward. Karma’s only a bitch if you are. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:19 am

@theriotisover: Don’t assume you will learn practical, job-ready workflows at school; don’t assume you can learn everything at work. Do both. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:19 am

@c0ina: RT @Dr0id: Also, be grateful. The world, and the film community don’t owe you anything. Get in there and do a great job, say ‘thanks’. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:19 am

@howardberry: RT @Dr0id: Also, be grateful. The world and the film community don’t owe you anything. Get in there and do a great job, say thanks #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:19 am

@TejBabra: @NateOrloff @Dr0id that’s great! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:19 am

@joetombarello: RT @theriotisover: School is a to make friends and build yr rep: as always, don’t be a dick. Pay it forward. Karma’s only a bitch if you are. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:19 am

@kyl33t: I did my first internship when i was a soph. Met an amazing connection/mentor who gave me my first freelance work after grad. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:19 am

@Dr0id: @BadBoyOfEditing ditto. I was never, and am not ‘above’ any gig. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:19 am

@toddzelin: Also, biggest pitfall of people that age, thinking everything you make is great. It isn’t. Take advice, notes, suggestions. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@aehric: I’m blessed every day to learn from coworkers who’ve been doing #post for ages. An invaluable resource. Get to be very creative. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@kyl33t: Seriously, no entitlement. RT @Dr0id: Also, be grateful. The world and the film community don’t owe you anything. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@jamesnw: My first job, I ended up being the only editor there after several months. Now I’m stuck between experienced and wanting a mentor. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@TejBabra: @jasonkonoza yeah but once you got that chance in the chair you were happy! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@couryc: @theriotisover absolutely. thinking back on it, i didn’t learn much in school. its always “trial by fire” it seems #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@toddzelin: RT @Dr0id: Also, be grateful. The world, and the film community don’t owe you anything. Get in there and do a great job, say ‘thanks’. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@joetombarello: @theriotisover @kyl33t Karma Rules. Always Be Good To Everyone In The College Edit Rooms… They Could Be Your Boss Someday #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@adoxography_: Ask other editors questions and listen carefully to them. You’ll be re-inventing the wheel if you don’t. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@EditorLiam: RT @TyLeisher So, who lives in LA and wants to get together for coffee? I’d love to meet more of you in person. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:20 am

@howardberry: @theriotisover Exactly! School can’t hold up a mirror to the industry and emulate it. It gives you skills to get there though. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:21 am

@aehric: RT @kyl33t: Seriously, no entitlement. RT @Dr0id: Also, be grateful. The world and the film community don’t owe you anything. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:21 am

@westonWoodbury: @BadBoyOfEditing kinda cut my teeth on medical videos & a LARP documentary project. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:21 am

@TejBabra: @Dr0id yes there is the cookie monster and the cookie. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:21 am

@alisterrobbie: @Dr0id @BadBoyOfEditing not above any jobs, but some I will avoid like the plague due to bad experience before… #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:21 am

@Dr0id: If you are currently in school, work on other student’s projects. make all your mistakes now. Learn from doing. Make allies. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:21 am

@c0ina: @kyl33t Left school for a 2 day job photocopying VFX storyboards (unpaid). I never left and they started paying me the next week. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@theriotisover: I am one of those “I don’t have a degree” people; school of trial by fire. But i loved film school: attended 3 years worth. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@gregorybayne: RT @NateOrloff: But I got my first real gig out college via Twitter actually. I blogged the story here: http://cl.ly/9mU6 #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@Dr0id: @alisterrobbie @Dr0id @BadBoyOfEditing agreed. Not above, but learn from mistakes. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@howardberry: @westonWoodbury @BadBoyOfEditing Two of my students just finished working on a corporate medical training video. Good experience. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @alisterrobbie @Dr0id @BadBoyOfEditing yup nothing wrong with paying dues and knowing not to step in the puddle again #bing #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@theriotisover: RT @Dr0id: If u’re currently in school, work on other students projects. make all yr mistakes now. Learn from doing. Make allies. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@Dr0id: @c0ina @kyl33t nice #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@couryc: @Dr0id absolutely, one of my biggest mistakes was not doing anything “extra” in school, and i felt it took me forever to catch up #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@toddzelin: @westonWoodbury @BadBoyOfEditing I started in the news room at Fox News Channel twisting the truth. I was young and needed the $$ #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@KimHuston: Also, make a reel. (simplest answer. simplest thing to do!) keep it short. Don’t put horrible music over it. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@Dr0id: RT @NateOrloff: But I got my first real gig out college via Twitter actually. I blogged the story here: http://cl.ly/9mU6 #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@alisterrobbie: @Dr0id @BadBoyOfEditing @westonWoodbury still make bread&butter editing education videos. not exciting, but good cashflow. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@kyl33t: @c0ina that’s awesome. i wish those kind of opportunities were available around here. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@adoxography_: @theriotisover I DO have a degree, several in fact, but they’ve worked against me. However, I don’t regret having them. #theory #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:22 am

@deftjester: What’s the best way of learning more about professional workflows so when you apply to post positions, you have a foundation #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@howardberry: Take the opportunity to network! Ask questions of visiting lecturers from industry, and meet students from other disciplines. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@jasonkonoza: @TejBabra Absolutely! Spent some long unpaid nights learning that old Avid, but when the internship was done they hired me. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @howardberry @westonWoodbury i learned every shortcut & output method under the sun making those DVDs well worth it #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@Dr0id: @alisterrobbie @Dr0id @BadBoyOfEditing @westonWoodbury no shame in that, my friend. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@kyl33t: Repeat: DON’T PUT HORRIBLE MUSIC OVER IT. RT @KimHuston Also, make a reel. Don’t put horrible music over it. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@joetombarello: @kyl33t The Best And Most Solid Source Of My Network Has Been My Classmates That I Have Gone Through Fire With. I Trust Them. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@zaffi: Don’t act like u know everything off the bat, be humble, be kind + be ready to learn so people will remember you in the future. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@EditorLiam: RT @adoxography_: Ask other editors questions and listen carefully to them. You’ll be re-inventing the wheel if you don’t. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@theriotisover: My path: 4 yrs intern/apprentice small house; 1 year BA film school; 6mos small edit house while night class; 2.5 years school. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@KimHuston: short reel: especially because you PROBABLY don’t have anything too terribly impressive to put on it yet. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:23 am

@toddzelin: RT @zaffi: Don’t act like u know everything off the bat, be humble, be kind + be ready to learn so people will remember you in the future. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@Dr0id: RT @howardberry Take the opportunity to network! Ask q’s of visiting lecturers from industry, meet students from other disciplines #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@theriotisover: @adoxography_ In film/related? Or different topics? I was a film major with comp sci minor when I started. Later, BFA candidate. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@KimHuston: @theriotisover interesting! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@c0ina: @KimHuston re: reels, they should reflect your real life editing skills, NOT your skills at cutting a showreel montage! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@adoxography_: I agree. U’re not hot shit yet. RT @zaffi: Don’t act like u know everything off the bat, be humble, be kind + be ready to learn . #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @deftjester nothing wrong with coming in cold. nothing worse than coming in hot and being totally useless to your employer. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@NinjaKittay: @KimHuston yeah that’s very true, not all school projects are reel worthy. Doing outside projects on your own is important. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@pirid: @rassnapp Agreed. I had hands on in many areas of production and post. Helped immensely as an editor. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:24 am

@howardberry: I run a networking event in our School for students from every course (music, animation, graphics, photography..) Free beer helps! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@Dr0id: @c0ina @KimHuston THANK YOU! agreed #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@TejBabra: @KimHuston well nobody will watch a long one either. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@theriotisover: @kyl33t @KimHuston ALSO, please put full scenes in yr reel. Don’t make a sizzle reel. I wanna see how you cut/pace SCENES. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@westonWoodbury: @toddzelin @westonWoodbury @BadBoyOfEditing I’ve been given that oppo. I’d have to move, & passed, don’t wanna be stuck in news. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@kyl33t: @deftjester asking to job shadow at post houses, asking ppl online (like here), @fxphd had a great class about workflows too. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@alisterrobbie: @Dr0id @BadBoyOfEditing @westonWoodbury no shame at all. bloody good earner. allows me to take creative gigs that pay #sweetfa #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@rassnapp: @toddzelin @westonwoodbury @badboyofediting I have done many political ads I’ll never admit to #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@Dr0id: @NinjaKittay @KimHuston it doesn’t always have to be for the reel, either. Some times you cut to learn. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@adoxography_: @theriotisover Yup, BA and BMus in Image&sound. MA in Screen Arts majoring in Directing and sounddesign. Ended up editing #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@latenitefilms: RT @artguillotine: I usually tell students, build a group, 1 DP, 1 editor, 1 prod, 1 sound, 1 direct. Make a movie a month, dif. genre each month #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@toddzelin: The amount of weekends I worked, parties missed, family gatherings I couldn’t make. Sacrifice is part of this business. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:25 am

@chrisgruggen: Coming in cold can be a good thing, employers can train you how they want things done instead of you thinking you know it all. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@deftjester: @BadBoyOfEditing def agree about coming in too hot but not many seem to me looking for green-thumbs #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@zaffi: Be ready to work nights, and by nights I mean overnights. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@KimHuston: My path: 2 years Film BFA, 1 year digital media BFA, 1 rest of Film BFA, unpaid work in WI, reality in NY, features in LA. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@theriotisover: @joetombarello @kyl33t Actually, I met @Dr0id in the college edit room. Both worked full time and school full time. NERDY ALLIES. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@joetombarello: College & Beyond: Take The Opportunity To Learn Differenst Styles Of Production. News Editing, Music Video, Documentary Etc. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@TejBabra: The CCE ( Canadian Cinema Editors )Pub nights are great to mingle with other editors. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@Dr0id: If you’re comfortable on FCP, then cut a friend’s project on #AVID. If you’ve never opened After Effects, do it this weekend, etc. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @deftjester having said that intern & research on the internet. Most places expect u to have to learn operational guides #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@kyl33t: @theriotisover i actually don’t have a real reel right now im experimenting w/ just work samples. editor reels are boring. #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@pirid: Also be Patient, Persistent and Polite! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@westonWoodbury: @KimHuston agree a ton there. Some don’t like reels, I disagree. My reel has brought me tons of opportunities. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@NinjaKittay: Try participating in some contests also, they’re fairly low pressure and get you more experience on the side. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@westonWoodbury: RT @kyl33t: Repeat: DONT PUT HORRIBLE MUSIC OVER IT. RT @KimHuston Also, make a reel. Dont put horrible music over it. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@KimHuston: Throw one more Avid class in there in NYC. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:26 am

@theriotisover: @adoxography_ What’s a BMus? Don’t recognize that.. NZ thing? #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:27 am

@toddzelin: RT @zaffi: Be ready to work nights, and by nights I mean overnights. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:27 am

@Dr0id: @theriotisover @joetombarello @kyl33t and honestly, it’s the reason we work together now. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:27 am

@TejBabra: @Dr0id After Effects is great! #postchat September 1, 2011, 1:27 am

@howardberry: Don’t expect lecturers to teach you everything. 50% of the learning should come from you and your passion. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 1:27 am

@Dr0id: RT @howardberry: “Dont choose the wine before u know what ure going to b eating”.Understand the content before u dive n head first #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:01 am

@theriotisover: Yes. RT @erikspink: @TejBabra Watch as many films as you can during undergraduate. Software will change. Cinema history wont. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@Dr0id: @NinjaKittay great words! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@TejBabra: Well that’s all folks. Thank you all for joining us tonight for Post Chat. Tune in next week. Same time Same channel ! #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@c0ina: RT @howardberry: “Don’t choose the wine before you know what you’re going to be eating”. Understand the content before you dive in head first. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@Dr0id: Learn the art, not just the keyboard. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@TejBabra: @NinjaKittay very nice! #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@comebackshane: @BadBoyOfEditing You’d rather fly blind with someone rather than see samples? Brave. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@khormotion: Always do more than expected. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@howardberry: @Dr0id That one was told to me by @jonathaneric #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@theriotisover: Big picture! good advice! RT @howardberry: “Dont choose the wine before you know what youre going to be eating”. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@anferno: RT @erikspink: @TejBabra Watch as many films as you can during undergraduate. Software will change. Cinema history won’t. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:02 am

@NinjaKittay: @theriotisover @erikspink @TejBabra I took some film history courses, one about film noir which I ended up loving great idea. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@EditorLiam: To Film School, or Not to Film School? and the top 25 Film Schools #Postchat -… http://t.co/2UveJgD September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@theriotisover: @kyl33t @Dr0id You are not wrong. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@joetombarello: @TejBabra @chernowa I Think This Guy Sums Up My Stance On Learning After Effects By Any Means. ~> http://t.co/3stpNEf #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@alisterrobbie: dont be afraid to ask questions. the answer is always no if you don’t ask. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@zaffi: @Dr0id I want that on a t-shirt… #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@jamesnw: Have a good hobby. It makes you more interesting, and for me, I get beer out of the deal. #homebrewing #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@kyl33t: @TejBabra good topic! #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@Dr0id: Thanks for the chat. Logs will be up soon. Go make something great. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@BadBoyOfEditing: @comebackshane didnt say that. but have been burned by judging someone on their samples and had them disappoint come game time. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@Dr0id: Oh, and follow @postchat! We are trying to move all updates, notices, etc there. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@bsengsouvanh: RT @alisterrobbie: dont be afraid to ask questions. the answer is always no if you don’t ask. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@vervespot: RT @jonberrydesign: true that: RT @NateOrloff RT @thisisbpm: a good reel gets you in the door, but being easy to work with gets you called back… #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:03 am

@TejBabra: Logs will up soon. thanks again everyone ! #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@theriotisover: well, ya got me, #PostChat. Ya got me. I STAYED THE ENTIRE TIME. i love you. but i’m leaving now. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@LibbySegal: RT @zaffi: Stay vigilante, stay hungry. Post is a uniquely challenging profession that is immensely rewarding to those who are passionate. #Postchat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@comebackshane: Be eager. Don’t act like the entry level job is beneath you. Don’t act like the next Walter Murch/Steven Spielberg. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@NinjaKittay: Thanks again for a great discussion! Cya everybody next week #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@CoolHandLucas: Oh Lord, it’s going to be a late night. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@TejBabra: Don’t forget to follow @postchat ! We are trying to move all updates, notices, etc there. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@erikspink: RT @Dr0id: Learn the art, not just the keyboard. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@Dr0id: @TejBabra thank you. great advice, my friend. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:04 am

@joetombarello: RT @comebackshane: Be eager. Don’t act like the entry level job is beneath you. Don’t act like the next Walter Murch/Steven Spielberg. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:05 am

@anferno: Thanks all for my first #postchat. I learned what I should’ve done 6 years ago… September 1, 2011, 2:05 am

@Dr0id: @howardberry thanks for all your insights tonight. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:05 am

@howardberry: Thanks all for the discussion! Time for bed for me now… it’s 3am here! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:05 am

@TejBabra: @Dr0id no thank you. great session tonight! #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:05 am

@Dr0id: @anferno awesome. welcome. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:05 am

@lucybirchley: RT @alisterrobbie: nice one bloke. no reel required. #PostChat RT @RobStaggFilms: Hey @alisterrobbie i just updated my site http://t.co/aE0XmnF September 1, 2011, 2:05 am

@joetombarello: RT @Dr0id: Learn the art, not just the keyboard. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:06 am

@westonWoodbury: ohh.. NOW I see tweetchat’s “block retweets”. Only took me 2 weeks to pick up on . | Now it needs coversation indicators. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:06 am

@rassnapp: Great #PostChat everyone! Now everyone get back to our Lucas raging. September 1, 2011, 2:06 am

@joetombarello: RT @theriotisover: ..Learn the art of editing and the craft of television sciences. Everything else is just buttons; buttons come with user manuals. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:06 am

@Dr0id: @howardberry thanks for staying up! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:06 am

@walterbiscardi: RT @Dr0id: Oh, and follow @postchat! We are trying to move all updates, notices, etc there. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:06 am

@TheAviatorr: RT @erikspink: How many people here would consider themselves PrEditors? And what are your thoughts on the merging of producer/editor/color etc. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:06 am

@hunt4: RT @artguillotine: I usually tell students, build a group, 1 DP, 1 editor, 1 prod, 1 sound, 1 direct. Make a movie a month, dif. genre each month #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:06 am

@michaschmidt: but on the other hand for some ppl / jobs it might be a good idea to “go to School” but remember: get as much practice as possible #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:07 am

@walterbiscardi: Learn as much about the world as you can besides production. General knowledge of all things useful in our business. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:07 am

@alisterrobbie: RT @postchat: Follow @PostChat for info on #PostChat’s! @artguillotine will give away 1 of their famous postpro t-shirts to 1 lucky follower who RTs this! September 1, 2011, 2:07 am

@walterbiscardi: My love of cooking very useful in #GoodEats. Love of space useful in science shows. Love of environment useful in new series. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:07 am

@westonWoodbury: great… got a larp following me now from my mention. #hellooowork ? #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:08 am

@Dr0id: RT @walterbiscardi: Learn as much about the world as you can besides production. General knowledge of all things useful in our business. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:08 am

@EditorLiam: RT @walterbiscardi: Learn as much about the world as you can besides production. General knowledge of all things useful in our business. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:08 am

@EditorLiam: RT @walterbiscardi: My love of cooking very useful in #GoodEats. Love of space useful in science shows. Love of environment useful in new series. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:08 am

@ThePostProject: RT @postchat: Follow @PostChat for info on #PostChat’s! @artguillotine will give away 1 of their famous postpro t-shirts to 1 lucky follower who RTs this! September 1, 2011, 2:08 am

@westonWoodbury: @walterbiscardi well said! #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:10 am

@macgarp: bummed I missed #postchat. but I am editing your favorite show… Channel 7 Action News. September 1, 2011, 2:11 am

@michaschmidt: RT @Dr0id: Oh, and follow @postchat! We are trying to move all updates, notices, etc there. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:11 am

@ThePostProject: its been great watching #PostChat this week. i was engaging from my other account. a good conversation all. cheers! September 1, 2011, 2:12 am

@michaschmidt: RT @postchat: Follow @PostChat for info on #PostChat’s! @artguillotine will give away 1 of their famous postpro t-shirts to 1 lucky follower who RTs this! September 1, 2011, 2:13 am

@Delirious_Pics: RT @zaffi: An education is what u make of it. Either sit around wasting time or be proactive and get some mileage. Ambition goes a long way. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:14 am

@jamesnw: @walterbiscardi Agreed. I wish I had double majored in sociology, for that exact reason. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:14 am

@jamesdrakefilms: #postchat dangit just missed it!!! September 1, 2011, 2:15 am

@joetombarello: RT @anferno: Don’t compromise a paycheck because of “artistic integrity”. You’ll have plenty of chances to make your own things #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:15 am

@splice_vine: RT @theriotisover: My advice: learn workflows, learn industry standards; don’t worry too much about tools like FCPX vs Avid etc…. (contd) #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:16 am

@RachyLees: RT @Dr0id: I think it’s a common misconception that film students think they are waiting to be ‘discovered’. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:16 am

@RachyLees: RT @Dr0id: Honestly, if you are in Post, you are a student. There is ALWAYS something to learn, someone to learn from. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:16 am

@Ebezo: RT @alisterrobbie: dont be afraid to ask questions. the answer is always no if you don’t ask. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:18 am

@deftjester: I just got schooled by a director’s ct vs mine on my latest freelance gig. Must keep learning! #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:25 am

@filmester: RT @artguillotine: I usually tell students, build a group, 1 DP, 1 editor, 1 prod, 1 sound, 1 direct. Make a movie a month, dif. genre each month #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:25 am

@dccox23: RT @Dr0id: RT @howardberry: “Dont choose the wine before u know what ure going to b eating”.Understand the content before u dive n head first #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:27 am

@willgallego: RT @anferno: Don’t compromise a paycheck because of “artistic integrity”. You’ll have plenty of chances to make your own things #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:28 am

@B_Ri: @couryc fcp7 ain’t going anywhere for a while #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:32 am

@cinemaminima: RT @TejBabra: Don’t forget to follow @postchat ! We are trying to move all updates, notices, etc there. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:38 am

@chrisgruggen: Learned a lot tonight on #postchat. Thanks guys cc: @TejBabra @howardberry @Dr0id @artguillotine September 1, 2011, 2:39 am

@davidjaku: @CoolHandLucas it is not quite the same! What does one do on this #postchat thing? September 1, 2011, 2:43 am

@etchie: RT @Dr0id: RT @howardberry: “Dont choose the wine before u know what ure going to b eating”.Understand the content before u dive n head first #PostChat September 1, 2011, 2:49 am

@theriotisover: Post Chatter fr #PostChat Lovers is out! http://t.co/yfvnTQX ▸ Top stories today via @michaschmidt @drempt_vision @c0ina @kyl33t @fcutmtl September 1, 2011, 2:50 am

@CoolHandLucas: @davidjaku There’s a lot of post folks (Editors / Assts) who chat it up on Wednesdays @ 9pm EDT with #PostChat hashtag – different themes… September 1, 2011, 2:53 am

@zevrobinson: RT @TejBabra: Don’t forget to follow @postchat ! We are trying to move all updates, notices, etc there. #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:54 am

@davidjaku: Is this about imparting cutting wisdom like “watch all the footage” or “avoid out of focus footage if u can?” #postchat #deeperthanitsounds September 1, 2011, 2:56 am

@drempt_vision: RT @theriotisover: Post Chatter fr #PostChat Lovers is out! http://t.co/yfvnTQX ▸ Top stories today via @michaschmidt @drempt_vision @c0ina @kyl33t @fcutmtl September 1, 2011, 3:03 am

@dvergotti: RT @walterbiscardi: Learn as much about the world as you can besides production. General knowledge of all things useful in our business. #postchat September 1, 2011, 3:06 am

@craigtwilkinson: @TejBabra the moment you stop learning, is the moment you become redundant. #postchat September 1, 2011, 3:06 am

@mikefreyder: RT @theriotisover: My advice: learn workflows, learn industry standards; don’t worry too much about tools like FCPX vs Avid etc…. (contd) #PostChat September 1, 2011, 3:12 am

@jedivandal: RT @postchat: Follow @PostChat for info on #PostChat’s! @artguillotine will give away 1 of their famous postpro t-shirts to 1 lucky follower who RTs this! September 1, 2011, 3:15 am

@Phrommayon: RT @artguillotine: Listen and analyze each piece of info given to you. you can disagree but don’t snap to judgements before you’ve truly understood #postchat September 1, 2011, 3:32 am

@djrhettmc: RT @walterbiscardi: Learn as much about the world as you can besides production. General knowledge of all things useful in our business. #postchat September 1, 2011, 3:47 am

@thisisbpm: Going through the #postchat while I’m riding the train home. I’m really sorry I missed it. I feel really strongly about EVERY post September 1, 2011, 3:54 am

@Brennan_Wright: RT @walterbiscardi: Learn as much about the world as you can besides production. General knowledge of all things useful in our business. #postchat September 1, 2011, 4:08 am

@EditorLiam: RT @artguillotine: Listen and analyze each piece of info given to you. you can disagree but don’t snap to judgements before you’ve truly understood #postchat September 1, 2011, 4:10 am

@take2vm: RT @walterbiscardi: Learn as much about the world as you can besides production. General knowledge of all things useful in our business. #postchat September 1, 2011, 4:21 am

@toddzelin: Tomorrow night… Vegas. I can’t wait to show off my #editorflab at the pool. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 4:23 am

@pdinatale: Red Cine X jumps into the fray of NLE. #postproduction #PostChat #notsureaboutthat September 1, 2011, 4:54 am

@Toskian: RT @Dr0id: Oh, and follow @postchat! We are trying to move all updates, notices, etc there. #PostChat September 1, 2011, 5:50 am

@flodehaan: RT @FinalCutWhiz: What is the best way to convert 320×240 footage to 1080p? #PostChat September 1, 2011, 5:52 am

@Radutron: RT @artguillotine: I usually tell students, build a group, 1 DP, 1 editor, 1 prod, 1 sound, 1 direct. Make a movie a month, dif. genre each month #postchat September 1, 2011, 10:38 am

@TyLeisher: Does anyone still have their tweetdeck #postchat window open from last night? Trying to get the logs, but my computer crashed September 1, 2011, 1:02 pm

@Dr0id: Hey #NYC Post peoples, how interested would you be in a #PostChat meet up? #postproduction #AVID #FCP #VFX September 1, 2011, 1:04 pm

@jeannevb: A must! RT @Dr0id: Hey #NYC Post peoples, how interested would you be in a #PostChat meet up? #postproduction #AVID #FCP #VFX September 1, 2011, 1:08 pm

@shooteditsleep: @Dr0id jealous! nice #postchat btw.. I’m still sifting through last night’s tweets September 1, 2011, 1:09 pm

@grking: RT @jeannevb: A must! RT @Dr0id: Hey #NYC Post peoples, how interested would you be in a #PostChat meet up? #postproduction #AVID #FCP #VFX September 1, 2011, 1:29 pm

@GREGBIELA: A jug fills drop by drop.-Buddha #amwriting #indie #scriptchat #writing #screenwriting #filmmaking #TVWriterchat #postchat September 1, 2011, 2:17 pm

@alba: @grking @jeannevb @dr0id nnI’m a #NYC Post peep, I’m very interested in #PostChat meetup. September 1, 2011, 2:57 pm

@howardberry: Really enjoyed being involved in #PostChat last night. Having a great day today too September 1, 2011, 2:59 pm

@KimHuston: RT @howardberry: Really enjoyed being involved in #PostChat last night. Having a great day today too September 1, 2011, 3:36 pm

@blakebogosian: Just don’t wait till school is almost done or over to get an intership. Start looking for them right away! #postchat September 1, 2011, 3:41 pm

@glenmontgomery: Agreed >>RT @kyl33t: Suggestion: #postchat map so I can see what regions semi-regular-to-regular contributors are located in. @TyLeisher September 1, 2011, 3:53 pm

@MarionLaney: RT @walterbiscardi: My love of cooking very useful in #GoodEats. Love of space useful in science shows. Love of environment useful in new series. #postchat September 1, 2011, 5:03 pm

@sarfeed: Bummed I missed #postchat. I just finished my 1st internship, w/o technical training from school, all self taught, taking Avid courses soon. September 1, 2011, 5:12 pm

@chrisvisser: Great post by @robtheeditor that can be applied to anyone’s career. #PostChat #postproduction http://t.co/wb0moai September 1, 2011, 7:27 pm

@TyLeisher: @glenmontgomery @westonWoodbury @kyl33t Hm, yeah. That’s outside anything I know. But if anyone knows how, let me know! #postchat September 1, 2011, 10:08 pm

@KimHuston: #PostChat RT@LAist: Intern Faux Pas: Man Accused of Videotaping Men Urinating & Defecating in Bathroom http://t.co/4wlLLPw September 1, 2011, 10:16 pm

PostChat #12 Transcripts: How To Find & Maintain The Tone Of A Scene

This week we talked about how to find and maintain the tone of a scene in everything from documentaries to web series pilots. We also discussed keyboard shortcuts for Final Cut Pro, Avid Media Composer and any NLE that people wanted to share.

This week we had roughly 475 tweets from 47 active tweeters.

Moderators: @dr0id, @tejbabra, @TyLeisher, @artguillotine

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Dr0id Welcome to Post Chat. Our first topic is ‘Tone’. How to find it and maintain it in a scene and story arch. #PostChat -6:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Here’s how to participate tonight: http://t.co/U0oFWaQ #PostChat -6:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id My fav way is here: http://t.co/8mHg4iS #PostChat -6:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TejBabra RT @Dr0id: Welcome to Post Chat. Our first topic is Tone. How to find it and maintain it in a scene and story arch. #postchat -6:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TyLeisher For anyone not in the know… PC: Print Screen + Paint, Mac: CMD+Shift+4 (Gives you a dragger, drag a box around keyboard) #postchat -6:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover hi post peoples! Thanks fr the link again @Dr0id I bookmarked it now. #PostChat -6:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

khormotion Keyboard, shortcuts, and managing scenes today at #postchat -6:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id We have 2 topics for tonight, but 1st I want to ask quickly what the post community thinks of Jobs stepping down? #JobsWellDone #PostChat -6:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TyLeisher RT @TejBabra: RT @Dr0id: Welcome to Post Chat. Our first topic is Tone. How to find it and maintain it in a scene and story arch. #postchat -6:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TyLeisher Sorry for being so spammy today people. But I’ll be doing another tweetchat! Bare with me www.vimeo.com/25157633 #PostChat -6:28 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Patrick_Aubry The tone, you feel in your goths most like the music or the temp music you place in your edit. #postchat -6:28 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @jamesnw @Dr0id I am much expecting this. I give it 2-3 gadget generations. Just my personal guess, that’s all. #postchat #proapps #osx -6:28 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @dwolfmeyer @TyLeisher @theriotisover Ethics are a much larger issue in doc or journo, fiction is up for grabs. #PostChat -6:28 PM Aug 24th, 2011

KimHuston @westonWoodbury @theriotisover Not all of them directly relevant for style or tone, though. #PostChat -6:28 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @artgug @TyLeisher this happened on a friends short film recently. He did a pass, then I reordered how those events happened #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz I am working on a documentary about my hometown, Lowell, MA. I plan on using vo, music, color correction to set the tone. #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz (PS: you may know Lowell, MA from The Fighter) #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @artgug @TyLeisher the scene stayed the same, but the tone changed. #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Dr0id @artgug What about this philosophy I’ve heard and like and work by: “movie has 3 incarnations. Script, Can, Cut.” (contd) #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello @Hitecsoftouch @kyl33t @Dr0id To Change “Tone” in a Video Is To Change Gears… Do You Want To Go Up or Down? #Postchat -6:29 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Dr0id @artgug Script changes when actors perform it, then editor shapes performance. So it changes at least 3 significant times. #PostChat -6:30 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @kyl33t @FinalCutWhiz Other tone changes tend to be more subliminal unless you are an editor #PostChat -6:30 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ericnon Fascinating discussion going on! I’d say you’ve found the right tone when your own emotions are affected working through a scene #postchat -6:30 PM Aug 24th, 2011

howie_c RT @artguillotine: Tone is a constantly fluctuating element, like Jazz you need to improvise sometimes, never lock yourself down. #postchat -6:30 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello RT @theriotisover: @Dr0id @artgug Script changes when actors perform it, then editor shapes performance. So it changes at least 3 significant times. #PostChat -6:30 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @theriotisover to an extent, yes that is true. But a lot of docs make use of reenactment which is handled like narrative ftg #PostChat -6:30 PM Aug 24th, 2011

twainrich @Dr0id : the tone i deal with most is a fast paced one. directors here like to see things move fast and love jump cuts. #PostChat -6:30 PM Aug 24th, 2011

YvetteJJackson @FinalCutWhiz Rethinking For a doc, I’d say the shots. For comedy, timing of cuts and drama, music… #PostChat -6:30 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Salah_Baker Ethics, should be it’s own #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @theriotisover @artgug I see myself as a storyteller, even more than an editor. I do believe that the story is re-told in the cut. #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 24th, 2011

pietaricreative @FinalCutWhiz is your doco about the history of Lowell or what? #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @YvetteJJackson oh yeah, true. #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @twainrich ah! We see a lot of that up here too: 24, MTV, etc. #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello @ericnon Exactly. When You Connect Well With The Viewer, You’ve Got The Right Tone. #Postchat -6:31 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @pietaricreative it’s about the history of it, how it’s portrayed as a “bad” city, and what it’s really like. #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @Salah_Baker nods #PostChat -6:32 PM Aug 24th, 2011

pietaricreative @FinalCutWhiz that’s awesome, i’d totally dig that (grew up in Wakefield) #PostChat -6:32 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello RT @Salah_Baker: To me and edit is like music composition, you have a key and variations on main theme. Move the key to a dark minor, changed #PostChat -6:32 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @artgug Agree that’s where It Happens, but ask u to consider that since Dir’s been thru all stages, there are attachments #PostChat -6:33 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @pietaricreative oh, very nice I recently made a doc about refugee students in the US (specifically Lowell). #PostChat -6:33 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id RT @RyanFerguson83: @Dr0id Tone should come from the context of the scene not from some decision to *apply* tone like a filter. #postchat -6:33 PM Aug 24th, 2011

KimHuston @theriotisover @westonwoodbury Ooh. that’s interesting. Definitely abstract shiz like that is a good challenge as well! #PostChat -6:33 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer usually have a script to start on most of my docs (saves time & $) but I read it & get am idea in my head for how I want to cut it #PostChat -6:33 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @RyanFerguson83 great point #postchat -6:33 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artguillotine RT @Salah_Baker To me and edit is like music composition, you have a key and variation on main theme. Move the key to a dark minor #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello @FinalCutWhiz LOwell? I was born & Raised in Methuen. Good Amount Of Beantown Folk ‘Round Here #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @artgug There is (at least on the level I’ve worked) very often a need fr editor to offer change coping therapy to attached Dirs #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe @theriotisover @artgug IYou have to be careful. You are hired to bring fresh perspective, but at same time, it’s not your film. #postchat -6:34 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz Haha yeah, lots o’ people here from MA #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @joetombarello @FinalCutWhiz I am a Quincy and South Shore girl #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer Then I scour ftg to fond what was in my head, if that doesn’t work. I come up with something else. Music & rhythm play a big role #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz Oops, that was suppose to be an @reply for @joetombarello #PostChat -6:35 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @ChristianGlawe @artgug It’s hard fr me to fully explain i this short form but there has been occasional need fr it #PostChat -6:35 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artgug @theriotisover yes, but the director influences or drives the edit, so that’s ok. #postchat -6:35 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @ChristianGlawe @theriotisover @artgug I agree. Re-not your film. You are helping to tell the director’s story. The best way poss #PostChat -6:35 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @ChristianGlawe @artgug I do mostly indie shorts so things often do NOT go as planned, or there are rewrites mid shoot. #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @KimHuston @westonwoodbury @theriotisover I do this for docs as well. Though I watch a mix of narrative & doc to inspire me #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz For me, I am usually the writer, director, and editor. So, if I have an idea of the tone, it usually stays all the way through. #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artgug @Dr0id it’s a discussion for another day, but I meet to many “editors” who are actually just button pushers. that makes me sad #postchat -6:37 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @theriotisover @ChristianGlawe @artgug nods #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @KimHuston @theriotisover I immediately think of spirals & Pi | #postchat -6:37 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Dr0id @ChristianGlawe @artgug ..referring to Dirs who’ve ask specifically fr this or if a scene doesnt work and needs to be cut #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @theriotisover @ChristianGlawe @artgug that’s true of big features as well. Production changes the story. #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @artgug @tyleisher that is the ethical dilemma. I’m a j-school grad not a film major. I approach all docs as a journalist #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz it doesn’t change? Or vary? #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Hitecsoftouch @ChristianGlawe @artgug It’s not my style to Direct someone’s story; supporting Dir’s vision is my primary goal. #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id oh, it has! But it usually sticks all the way through. #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 24th, 2011

YvetteJJackson RT @Salah_Baker: To me and edit is like music composition, you have a key and variations on main theme. Move the key to a dark minor, changed #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Salah_Baker If you are the one man band indie, you know the tone. BUT just like music someone always has a better ear #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello @theriotisover @Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz How Much Control You Have Is Often Dictated By Where U Are In The Pipeline. [Pre, Prod, Post] #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @theriotisover @ChristianGlawe @artgug I’ve experienced this on promos and commercials, not so much short film, tv, features. #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Dr0id @ChristianGlawe @artgug …Big features have many resources to cope with change, in my experience I am often that resource #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 24th, 2011

KimHuston @westonWoodbury @theriotisover It’s like a riddle to inspire. #onehandclapping #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @Salah_Baker but do you some times improvise the melody and have solos, etc? #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz Very true! RT @joetombarello: How Much Control You Have Is Often Dictated By Where U Are In The Pipeline. [Pre, Prod, Post] #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Dr0id @ChristianGlawe @artgug …I’ve also had the misfortune to be part of some total shitshows But there is the mission!! #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TejBabra @Dr0id @Salah_Baker solos with a dark mood? #postchat -6:39 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @theriotisover @Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz or the people you are working with, the best tend to be very open. #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @dwolfmeyer music & rhythm huge here. Ive also discussed w/ other editors, that musicians tend to make excellent editors (usually) #postchat -6:40 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @theriotisover @ChristianGlawe @artgug then you are a valuable part of that team. #PostChat -6:40 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @theriotisover @Dr0id haha I am not the best director and not very open #PostChat -6:40 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artgug @ChristianGlawe a director/producer/editor relationship can be a partnership, depending on the project. #PostChat -6:40 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz …I’ve also been on great productions where the Dir just has that collab style #PostChat -6:40 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Salah_Baker @droid I always cut with my gut first, head second, and money third #PostChat -6:40 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz agreed. best let you retell in the cut-then put ur heads together. #PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @FinalCutWhiz @Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @theriotisover @Dr0id so you don’t listen to yourself? #PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello If I’m In An Editor Role & You Have Good Direction, You Don’t Have To Find The “Tone” Of The Piece. #Postchat -6:41 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @Salah_Baker well said. I try to do the same. #PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 24th, 2011

twainrich hard to keep up as i’m working…#PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artguillotine RT @joetombarello: If Im In An Editor Role & You Have Good Direction, You Dont Have To Find The “Tone” Of The Piece. #PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 24th, 2011

YvetteJJackson RT @westonWoodbury: @dwolfmeyer music & rhythm huge here. Ive also discussed w/ other editors, that musicians tend to make excellent editors (usually) #postchat -6:41 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @theriotisover @Dr0id no, I listen to myself, just not to other people’s ideas that often. #PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe @artgug Absolutely a partnership (btwn dir/prod/editor)! Almost a necessity, really #postchat -6:42 PM Aug 24th, 2011

kyl33t @joetombarello often, the one finds YOU #PostChat -6:42 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artgug @dwolfmeyer the fact that your editing at all is actually altering the original material. Your choosing tone to show the audience #PostChat -6:42 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover THIS. RT @joetombarello: If Im In An Editor Role & You Have Good Direction, You Dont Have To Find The “Tone” Of The Piece. #PostChat -6:42 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch So keyboards??? #PostChat -6:42 PM Aug 24th, 2011

BRoten @westonWoodbury @dwolfmeyer I like to see instruments on resumes as hobbies. I took piano as an adult. Rhythm makes you better #postchat -6:42 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz Then help reshape and tell their story #postchat -6:42 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id RT @artgug: @dwolfmeyer fact that ur editing at all is actually altering the original material. ur choosing tone to show audience #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover Me too. Sooth. RT @adoxography_ @theriotisover @Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz Quite often have panicked TV dir’s in suite. I soothe panic. #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Salah_Baker Remember 5 people in a group always come up with a better solution. #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @dwolfmeyer @artgug @tyleisher what do u think about other editors you know from #journalism? Most I know… don’t quite get it. #postchat -6:43 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TejBabra @Hitecsoftouch mine are all mapped to be similar so transferable to Avid or FCP or Preimer #postchat -6:43 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe @theriotisover @joetombarello Hmmm… Think I disagree. Even in best directed project, a good editor always finds something xtra. #postchat -6:43 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @ChristianGlawe @artgug agreed. There can be a lot freedom in being in a partnership with the director. #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury @dwolfmeyer @artgug @tyleisher oh God, don’t talk about journalism. They just through any crappy video together. #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ Avid keyboard, layout based on Avid DV Express original keyboard. Can’t live without ‘extend’ [P] #postchat http://t.co/WqqXMI6 -6:44 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz I always listen, consider them, sometimes alter my plan based on that input. @Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @Dr0id #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @westonWoodbury @dwolfmeyer @artgug @tyleisher it’s usually never put well together. #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @theriotisover @Hitecsoftouch @joetombarello @Dr0id oh I usually like to listen. Just sometimes it can be too hectic. #PostChat -6:45 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Ok 15 min left. Lets move quickly to topic 2- Keyboard Layout. Share ur mapped keyboards and fav mapped shortcuts. #PostChat -6:45 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ @Dr0id @ChristianGlawe @artgug Once a director trusts the editor there should be a lot of ‘freedom’. #postchat -6:45 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello Good Example Of Changing Tone Is When U See A “Recut” Of A Film You’ve Seen A Few Times.It Feels Different Cuz The tone’s Change. #Postchat -6:45 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id what?!?! Where did the time go?! Aww #PostChat -6:45 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ericnon @joetombarello i’m not sure. sometimes good direction is accepting new ideas – including tone, when that is helpful #postchat -6:45 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @artgug @dwolfmeyer hmm but they compliment each other, you are also altering the video even more so, IMO. #postchat #postchat -6:46 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Brennan_Wright RT @westonWoodbury: @dwolfmeyer music & rhythm huge here. Ive also discussed w/ other editors, that musicians tend to make excellent editors (usually) #postchat -6:46 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello Truth. RT @ericnon: i’m not sure. sometimes good direction is accepting new ideas – including tone, when that is helpful #postchat -6:46 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Brennan_Wright @westonWoodbury @dwolfmeyer I agree, music is a huge part of tone. #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TyLeisher RT @ericnon: im not sure. sometimes good direction is accepting new ideas – including tone, when that is helpful #postchat -6:47 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @adoxography_ extend was a product of the original Mac Newscutters. #PostChat -6:47 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover I’m currently AE fr multicam show in FCP. Faves I’ve mapped are CineTools ALE imports; Export to Compressor; Zoom to Playhead. #PostChat -6:47 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover RT @Dr0id: Ok 15 min left. Lets move quickly to topic 2- Keyboard Layout. Share ur mapped keyboards and fav mapped shortcuts. #PostChat -6:47 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/gooVyCK Ben’s collection #PostChat -6:47 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @artgug @dwolfmeyer okay, nm that probably doesn’t make sense. I think I am mixing tweets trying to keep up. =) #postchat #postchat -6:47 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ @Hitecsoftouch That’s where I learned the function. Still use it heaps. #postchat -6:47 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TejBabra @theriotisover that sounds crazy…well to me. #postchat -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Day job is on #FCP 7. Here’s my keyboard. #postchat http://t.co/sO7YoIS -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TyLeisher RT @Dr0id: Ok 15 min left. Lets move quickly to topic 2- Keyboard Layout. Share ur mapped keyboards and fav mapped shortcuts. #postchat -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Salah_Baker Still working on my shortcuts #Postchat http://t.co/3nJv8fC -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @ChristianGlawe Oh, I took it to mean that well directed actors set the tone in perf. of COURSE we always add value to scene! #PostChat -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello @ChristianGlawe I Agree, But A Great Editor *Adds* To A Project Or *Saves* A Project Depending On The Producer/Director’s Insights #PostChat -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz I’ve got no keyboard shortcut to share. I leave all mine at the default. #PostChat -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id My CMD keyboard #postchat http://t.co/OkmHQnf -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

kyl33t I like this keyboard thing. It’s like looking in an editor’s underwear drawer or something. #PostChat -6:48 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @TejBabra Crazy in what way? #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artgug gonna throw this out there….I think you should learn the program with the default keyboard settings #postchat -6:49 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello RT @kyl33t: I like this keyboard thing. It’s like looking in an editor’s underwear drawer or something. #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @kyl33t hahahaha that’s….. a very interesting way of putting it. #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch Default Mac http://t.co/B1hFlPy #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover Always has bugged me that FCP maps Apple + to zoom on SELECTION in timeline. WTF, useless. I’ve remapped to zoom to playhead. #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id One of my fav mapped short cuts is that I mapped the ’1′ key to be the ->-> arrow tool and the ’2′ key to be normal ->. So helpful #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @joetombarello @ChristianGlawe haha, well put. “A Great Editor *Adds* To A Project Or *Saves* A Project Depending” #postchat #postchat -6:50 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Brennan_Wright Mainly defaults (premeire pro) for me. Nothing special here! #postchat -6:50 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id RT @kyl33t: I like this keyboard thing. Its like looking in an editors underwear drawer or something. #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ @artgug Yep, but when you started many moons ago on a different version the default layouts change. #avidMC #postchat -6:50 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/KSijnm7 #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @kyl33t haha! =) #postchat -6:50 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @artgug But I started on AVID, and the beauty of mappable keys is you don’t let tools interrupt yr creativity.. & now FCP is dead! #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Also, I mapped zoom in and zoom out to ‘zoom in on playhead’. The zoom on selection is awful. #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @Salah_Baker wait… how did you get that? what is that? #premierepro #postchat -6:51 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe Admittedly, my keys are weird, but built for speed – http://t.co/49DrgyU #postchat -6:51 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch add edit is ‘H’, huh? Interesting. #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id in FCP? How do you change that?!?! #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch Job’s http://t.co/M8Y5mIc #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 24th, 2011

bethanysimpson @artgug yes, but with tweaks for speed & project types. #postchat -6:51 PM Aug 24th, 2011

kyl33t @Dr0id @theriotisover i need to change that. it’s one of those things that bothers me daily and i forget about in 1 millisecond #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe @artgug (sorry, but…) I disagree. Bend the software to your will, I say! #postchat -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Also, you’ll notice that my FCP keyboard is mapped for #AVID. I also have an AVID colored keyboard. #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch That’s the old skool! I have it mapped there too. In fact, quite a few similarities #postchat -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @artgug do you add anything on top of defaults? problem is it can literally save you huge amounts of time. #postchat -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover heehee true RT @kyl33t: I like this keyboard thing. Its like looking in an editors underwear drawer or something. #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello You Show Your Command Palette And I’ll Show You Mine #Postchat #Avid -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch Job’s shift http://t.co/0hlqgDs #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TejBabra @Dr0id now that is strange. I keep mine on a USB stick so I can take it anywhere I edit #postchat -6:52 PM Aug 24th, 2011

twainrich I have the Bella Keyboard for FCP. I do map certain keys to my G13 and Wacom Tablet. #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz under tools/keyboard. There is a search at top of buttons Search for playhead. #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/EJqjT8b #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

editblog I’m missing #postchat but wanted to point out the Keyboard Manifesto: http://t.co/S6nzn9n love the keyboard discussion #remap #postchat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TyLeisher That’s what I do. RT @TejBabra: @Dr0id now that is strange. I keep mine on a USB stick so I can take it anywhere I edit #postchat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/SAJc62j #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id oh my God, thank you!! I really hate that in FCP! #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

kyl33t i forgot to screenshot my keyboard, but it’s a lot of FCP defaults with a sprinkle of avid. use your imagination. #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id RT @editblog: Im missing #postchat but wanted to point out the Keyboard Manifesto: http://t.co/pYPlOJK #remap #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

videoguys RT @editblog: I’m missing #postchat but wanted to point out the Keyboard Manifesto: http://t.co/S6nzn9n love the keyboard discussion #remap #postchat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch i use “h” across the board–FCP PPRO AVID. (add edit) #postchat -6:53 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe My keys are weird, but built for speed – http://t.co/DahKwQR – #postchat -6:54 PM Aug 24th, 2011

KimHuston RT @joetombarello: You Show Your Command Palette And I’ll Show You Mine #Postchat #Avid -6:54 PM Aug 24th, 2011

KimHuston @Dr0id yeah, I mapped more detail and less detail to my Page Up and Page down buttons. #PostChat Script Marker is F5 #notexciting -6:54 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Also, I need A and S to be jump to next edit, back and forth. A must. #PostChat -6:54 PM Aug 24th, 2011

howardberry @Dr0id With the arrival of “Share” in FCP7 I mapped “Export with QuickTime conversion” to Cmd-Shift-R. #PostChat -6:54 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/Vm0EZ5Z #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ In about an hour’s time there will be 2 scheduled #postchat tweets from me. Sorry….got the time wrong and can’t undo the scheduling o_O -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @ChristianGlawe yes! You’re an arrow guy too. #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TejBabra now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/8j5qwrF #postchat -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id nice RT @howardberry: @Dr0id With the arrival of “Share” in FCP7 I mapped “Export with QuickTime conversion” to Cmd-Shift-R. #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @Dr0id I also map #FCP and #PPRO as closely as I can to my #avid keyboard. #whatimusedto #postchat -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artgug minor keyboard adjustments, yes. But Avid just doesn’t work as well when mapped as a FCP keyboard. #postchat -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello RT @TejBabra: now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/knQ2nHC #postchat -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Also, Shift M is match frame for me in both #AVID and #FCP #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @artgug but FCP works well mapped as #AVID. Love me some AVID shortcuts. #PostChat -6:56 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @Salah_Baker I need to check that out! thx! #postchat -6:56 PM Aug 24th, 2011

chrisgruggen @TejBabra Probably still works like a charm #postchat -6:56 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TheMovieBuds @toddzelin #PostChat Absolutely. The edits themselves can also change the tone. -6:56 PM Aug 24th, 2011

howardberry @Dr0id And also Two-Up view mapped to Cmd-Ctrl-U. #PostChat -6:56 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe @Dr0id (slightly unrelated) Guy I know who’s dialogue editor has trackball on *either* side of keyboard! Sickest thing I ever saw! #postchat -6:56 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id oh no! Mine is cleeeeean RT @TejBabra: now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/ojkYYzR #PostChat -6:56 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover Oh dear, the HORROR RT @TejBabra: now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/iXsvy3F #PostChat -6:56 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @ChristianGlawe whoa. Wish I could see that. #PostChat -6:57 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch So here is the problem, kb is just the surface. How are your workspaces and settings affecting the way you play your Avid? #PostChat -6:57 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TejBabra @Dr0id can you imagine walking into that. #postchat -6:57 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ Dayam! RT @TejBabra: now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/iduJOwi #PostChat -6:57 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover I also use the Window Layouts and those are mapped to key combos. Easy reconfig fr different tasks: load, loops, QC, etc #PostChat -6:57 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artgug @Dr0id things like shift-m is cool, but when you change the fundamental way a program is designed, it can cause issues. #postchat -6:57 PM Aug 24th, 2011

couryc RT @joetombarello: RT @TejBabra: now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/knQ2nHC #postchat -6:57 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @TejBabra haha.. fantastic. I use a similar old school kind, actually, I love the quality. They never die! (pic coming) #postchat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TyLeisher @adoxography_ @TejBabra Wow, no thanks. That’s pretty awful. #postchat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

NickWeeks RT @TejBabra: now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/8j5qwrF #postchat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

jamesnw Does anyone use any cool controllers for keyboard shortcuts? Like a footpedal to stop and start? http://t.co/xsBEstG #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe My god, man! – RT @theriotisover: Oh dear, the HORROR RT @TejBabra: now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/mmV5lG5 #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz RT @couryc: RT @joetombarello: RT @TejBabra: now this is a keyboard. http://t.co/QLLs6Pg #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ @Hitecsoftouch They’re very important. I need a tidy layout and will always link toolsets to named setting and save setting on USB #postchat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

DCReels RT @artgug: gonna throw this out there….I think you should learn the program with the default keyboard settings #postchat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id I can’t switch easily between keyboard settings. I’m #AVID all the way. I don’t want to have to look at my hands. EVER. #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Salah_Baker My workspace is a mess, we won’t talk about it. I have to change to fast #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

artgug @Dr0id FCP is more conducive to keyboard mappings, I’ll agree #postchat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @westonWoodbury @artgug I don’t know other people w/ J backgrounds editing. Most went to film or tech school, or no education #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 24th, 2011

KimHuston @ChristianGlawe @dr0id Ooh. Drive the Avid like a tank! Nice. #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 24th, 2011

DCReels @artgug Agreed, only shortcut that is a must for me is Shift-Z (fit timeline in window) #postchat -6:59 PM Aug 24th, 2011

harveyhead In PS – if a producer is giving unnecessary kerning on type. Apple+Z and then Apple+Z again. Repeat “Yeah, that looks better.” #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Hitecsoftouch first FCP workspace was not as customizable as Avid was and that was annoying. In either I’ve customized fr my pref #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @westonWoodbury @artgug @tyleisher editors I worked with in news are either still doing that or they are out of media altogether #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury Old school keyboards are simply the best. Made to last #postchat http://t.co/i7Mfzcz -7:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @artgug my cahnges to the #AVID keyboard are minor. Like Fast forward key, match frame, find in bin, group, etc. #PostChat -7:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Hitecsoftouch Once FCP allowed customization I made it like my Avid settings. I rely on muscle memory fr speed. #PostChat -7:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch think of the H as lying down a strip of film easy to remember that way. #PostChat -7:00 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @DCReels @artgug do you find that you use the tool bars, mouse more than keyboard? #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover RT @Dr0id: I cant switch easily between keyboard settings. Im #AVID all the way. I dont want to have to look at my hands. EVER. #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @theriotisover @Hitecsoftouch ditto #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello I think Some change Their shortcuts due 2 the Cutter They started on. [ex: Avid People Will Change any Cutter to Avid settings] #Postchat -7:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch I love that. #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @artgug why? One of the first things I learned in an Avid class was how to remap the KB #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

TejBabra Well thats all for tonight. Thank you all for joining us for Post Chat. #postchat -7:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

ChristianGlawe For me, record will *always* be ‘r’ – holdover from Discreet *edit. #postchat -7:01 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @adoxography_ Me too but greg staten teases me about it. #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Salah_Baker Good chat #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id RT @TejBabra: Well thats all for tonight. Thank you all for joining us for Post Chat. #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

harveyhead After tonight, I’m mapping Shift+Control+T as the “Fix Tone” button. #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz Not a fan of old school keyboards. I love my Apple wireless keyboard. #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @dwolfmeyer @westonWoodbury @artgug @tyleisher I’m not sure that the majority of them ‘could’ do anything else. yes #harsh #postchat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

DCReels @Dr0id @artgug On FCP mostly KB, w/Avid, since I’m a noob, too much mousing but that will change #postchat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer Colored KBs are pointless, especially if you remap #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

adoxography_ Freaked out director once when he used “I” for mark-in on keyboard. I have mapped “Step-in” to it. He thought he deleted the cut. #postchat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Transcripts will be up shortly. Thanks for chatting! Go make something awesome. #JobWellDone #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id @TejBabra yes, definitely a very nice chat #PostChat -7:03 PM Aug 24th, 2011

enricobenjamin Agreed @artgug: gonna throw this out there….I think you should learn the program with the default keyboard settings #postchat -7:03 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id @theriotisover thanks, as always. #PostChat -7:03 PM Aug 24th, 2011

har0ldm @Dr0id My current keyboard set on @MediaComposer http://t.co/F7HThMr and with Shift http://t.co/d0aYNbP #PostChat -7:03 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz That’s how I use it @artgug: gonna throw this out there….I think you should learn the program with the default keyboard settings #PostChat -7:03 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @artgug @christianglawe I see no point in multiple copies of commands on the default MC KB #PostChat -7:03 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Transcripts will be up shortly. Thanks for chatting! Go make something awesome. #JobsWellDone #PostChat #PostChat -7:03 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover What about yr second and third programs? RT @enricobenjamin: Agreed @artgug: -learn the program with the default keyboard settings #PostChat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

jasonkonoza Thanks for the keyboard mapping tips! ^5 #PostChat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

c0ina Am I too late to the party? My Avid KB settings, top level and shift level… http://t.co/YQzE6Us #PostChat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

djbtv RT @adoxography_: @Hitecsoftouch They’re very important. I need a tidy layout and will always link toolsets to named setting and save setting on USB #postchat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id haha I was wondering why you didn’t put an s at the end of Job #PostChat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @artgug I leave the defaults so I can train, add to blank keys. Markers to F1 to 8 eg. for takes. most go on shift. #PostChat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

har0ldm RT @Dr0id: I can’t switch easily between keyboard settings. I’m #AVID all the way. I don’t want to have to look at my hands. EVER. #PostChat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @dwolfmeyer that’s been my thought process on not wasting the clams to get one. Don’t need the visual aid anyway #postchat #postchat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

KimHuston @harveyhead Brilliant! #fixitwiththekeyboard #PostChat -7:04 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover lol RT @harveyhead: After tonight, Im mapping Shift+Control+T as the “Fix Tone” button. #PostChat -7:05 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @c0ina nope, just because it’s past the hour, doesn’t mean we have to stop #PostChat -7:05 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer My goal is to do away with the KB completely. There has to be a better device for editing. Think Lightworks Console #PostChat -7:05 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Dr0id Keep the chat going and we’ll transcribe it out past the normal time slot, tonight. I want to catch all the keyboards. #PostChat -7:05 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover You are welcome, as always. Good night!! RT @Dr0id: @theriotisover thanks, as always. #PostChat -7:05 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @Dr0id I’d like to see a collection of the posted keyboards, by softwares. Any possibility of so? #postchat #postchat -7:06 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @TejBabra @Dr0id On my USB I keep kb and settings for each major Avid Rel. #PostChat -7:06 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @artgug why would anyone in their right mind do that? go the other way! #PostChat -7:06 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @westonWoodbury @Dr0id If I may… You could compile from the chat logs tomorrow and we’d love you for it!! #PostChat -7:07 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz Had a very fun #PostChat! Thank you @Dr0id, @joetombarello @theriotisover @kyl33t @TejBabra! -7:07 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch ON Avid I also refer to Ctl/Cmd D as the dub keys. #PostChat -7:07 PM Aug 24th, 2011

c0ina @FinalCutWhiz Great It’s only 2pm here so I can only ever keep half an eye on #postchat while I’m working! #PostChat -7:07 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @artgug @dr0id Avid was designed for you to remap for your own needs. How does that cause issues? #PostChat -7:07 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @c0ina oh, nice. Working on anything good? #PostChat -7:08 PM Aug 24th, 2011

joetombarello @theriotisover Yes 140 Characters Is 2 Small All Beantown People Please DM me. I’d like to know where y’all are in the future #Postchat -7:08 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @c0ina Oof timezones are pesky. Thanks fr coming! And the tag is open all week so feel free to #PostChat whenever!! -7:08 PM Aug 24th, 2011

DCReels @dwolfmeyer Agreed, used to do beta-to-beta back in the day & the big red button was so satisfying. #postchat -7:09 PM Aug 24th, 2011

Hitecsoftouch Alright, I have to run. If I missed responding to anyone I will sort it out later. Thank you all for putting up with me. #PostChat -7:09 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @Hitecsoftouch Always a pleasure! Thanks fr putting up with me too. Good night! #PostChat -7:09 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @westonWoodbury that’s kind of my implication #PostChat -7:10 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @dwolfmeyer @artgug @dr0id When I switched to FCP and couldnt customize, I was sad. Got used to it but remapped kb when able. #PostChat -7:11 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @theriotisover @Hitecsoftouch it was fun thanks for putting up with my childish behavior. #PostChat -7:11 PM Aug 24th, 2011

c0ina @FinalCutWhiz Lots! Very, very busy down here! #PostChat -7:12 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @artgug I don’t map one app to work like another I map an app to work for me, thus I wouldn’t map Avid & FCP the same way #PostChat -7:12 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @joetombarello @theriotisover haha I was going to write “GO RED SOX” during the #PostChat to piss @Dr0id and other NYers off. -7:13 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @Dr0id I’m on my phone and unable to share, but I’ve put mine up in the past. #PostChat -7:13 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover @FinalCutWhiz Have a wicked good night duder!! I’m off. #PostChat -7:13 PM Aug 24th, 2011

c0ina @theriotisover Cheers! I’ll try and be more active in the future #PostChat -7:13 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @theriotisover haha I will… And you have a killah evenin’ #PostChat -7:13 PM Aug 24th, 2011

theriotisover Good night, #PostChat I shall see you next Weds.. til then, keep rocking the tag #PostChat -7:14 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @c0ina that could be a good thing, right? #PostChat -7:14 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @artgug j-k-l i-o space bar. What more do you need? #PostChat -7:14 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz Very true!!! RT @dwolfmeyer: @artgug j-k-l i-o space bar. What more do you need? #PostChat -7:15 PM Aug 24th, 2011

c0ina @FinalCutWhiz Yes and no – balance is good #postchat -7:15 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @artgug I remap MC like mad on the left side, FCP I don’t change much. #PostChat -7:15 PM Aug 24th, 2011

westonWoodbury @theriotisover @Dr0id I am up for the task. Any opinions on where I should post it? #postchat -7:15 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @c0ina yep, true true. What are you doing? Editing? #PostChat -7:17 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @BRoten @westonwoodbury I like to find a rhythm to the cut in the way people speak and act #PostChat -7:18 PM Aug 24th, 2011

c0ina @FinalCutWhiz Long form online editor here http://t.co/DYbpwXw plus producing/directing indie stuff http://t.co/c4h2VyQ #PostChat -7:19 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @FinalCutWhiz @westonwoodbury @artgug not journalism in the sense of local news. I take a journalistic approach to doc editing #PostChat -7:20 PM Aug 24th, 2011

FinalCutWhiz @c0ina well I look forward to getting updates about it #followed #PostChat -7:20 PM Aug 24th, 2011

lanamafilms RT @joetombarello: As a producer I know the tone of my piece. but as an editor sometimes w/out direction its hard 2 determine the “desired” tone #Postchat -7:39 PM Aug 24th, 2011

dwolfmeyer @editblog @artgug for you, yes. I don’t find that to be the case for me. KB raps are unique to every editor. #PostChat -7:39 PM Aug 24th, 2011

PostChat #12 Topic: Finding The Tone In A Scene + Keyboard Shortcuts!

In an effort to let you know about the upcoming topics more then five minutes before it starts, we’re going to start posting the topics on this blog a few days beforehand.

This week’s topic: Tone! We are talking about how to find the tone in a scene and how to maintain the tone of a project from start to finish.

PLUS! Just in case the fuel runs a little empty on the Tone Train, we’ve got a bonus topic: Keyboard Shortcuts! Take a screenshot of your keyboard shortcuts, share some little known ones and tell others how you’ve become more efficient. Any NLE is welcome!

There are plenty of good photo sharing sites out there, my favorite is imgur.

PostChat #11 (08.17.2011): Learning On A Budget

This week’s #PostChat we discussed how to learn without breaking your bank.

Moderators: @dr0id, @tejbabra, @TyLeisher, @artguillotine

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@Dr0id Alright, time for Post Chat this week. We are chatting about learning post and post apps for or little $. #postproduction #PostChat

@harveyhead #postchat has started. LET’S GO! -6:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher It’s #postchat o’clock! This week we’re talking about online resources, how to learn without breaking your back! -6:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/94y3X8j Official Avid Resources #PostChat -6:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id We are going to aggregate a ton of link to great material, so make sure to pop by. #PostChat -6:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @Dr0id Not that there’s anything wrong with paying to learn the tools of your trade. I highly recommend Video Symphony. #PostChat -6:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher It’s not free, and it’s not editorial based. But DigitalTutors.com is a great training resources for vfx and animation. #postchat -6:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id So, what are some of your favorite online resources for tutorials and ‘how to’s? #PostChat -6:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @dwolfmeyer agreed. Link? #PostChat -6:03 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/l0t8Rot Avid MC Knowledge Base #PostChat -6:03 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker “Learn, share, meet other pros” Used to be a Moderator at VFXTALK. Met the best post folks there before it went downhill. #PostChat -6:03 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @Hitecsoftouch: http://t.co/eyLHThp Aggregation of sources, regularly updated, youre welcome! #PostChat -6:03 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @Hitecsoftouch: http://t.co/Bk3JGjq Official Avid Resources #PostChat -6:03 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher Also, a given and a must visit frequently is CreativeCow.net and Videocopilot.net MUST Visit. #postchat -6:03 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher @Salah_Baker I was sad to see the direction it went. Is it still as bad? Or did they find new owners? #postchat -6:04 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @Dr0id Ah, yes. http://t.co/0OznPuC Not cheap, but if this is your career, totally worth it. #PostChat -6:04 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp oh goodie, I came in time from my bike for some #postChat -6:05 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/kI7oOTe Avid on-line training #PostChat -6:05 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Creative Cow is, without a doubt, an essential resource. It’s an incredible community. http://t.co/XoZ1Rpn #PostChat -6:05 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker Now most are on Twitter and I still ask questions of them… #PostChat -6:05 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@mikeapi #postchat CreativeCow.net and VideoCopilot.net certainly opened my eyes to the potential wealth of knowledge on the web. -6:05 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @Salah_Baker I honestly hadn’t heard of it. Sorry to hear that. #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @mikeapi nice! agreed #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @Salah_Baker This is what I do as well #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @TyLeisher I just ran , no longer think its a viable place. Better at Cow and pigsfly #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@comebackshane @Dr0id I have a LOT of tutorials on the Cow. And I have watched many too. Lynda.com is another good one. #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id http://t.co/G6ZJhIq also has an impressive library of video tutorials. #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @Dr0id Its was VFX #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @comebackshane: @Dr0id I have a LOT of tutorials on the Cow. And I have watched many too. Lynda.com is another good one. #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@comebackshane I agree with @dwolfmeyer, training like what Video Symphony does is great. I too took classes there. #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @comebackshane thank you #PostChat -6:06 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher thegnomonworkshop.com is another great resource, they have some free stuff there… but a lot of paid. Really worth it #vfx #postchat -6:07 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @Salah_Baker I would love to chat more about vfx as well. I am hoping Post Chat will be a place for it as well. #PostChat -6:07 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@zaffi Creative Cow is essential…Ken Stone also very helpful (http://t.co/RwtXX0J). In terms of paid tutorials, I dig MacProVideo.com #PostChat -6:07 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/ekT0kpY Avid Mailing list successor to the L and before that the Avid BBS #PostChat -6:07 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @zaffi nice #PostChat -6:07 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @dwolfmeyer: @Dr0id Ah, yes. http://t.co/0OznPuC Not cheap, but if this is your career, totally worth it. #PostChat -6:08 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer Do you guys find online tutorials helpful? There are a lot of really bad ones on YouTube. #postchat -6:08 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @Dr0id I have moved as far away from VFX as possible, hated vampire tan #postchat -6:08 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id I’m going to throw out all my links…stand by #PostChat -6:08 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative FXPHD is a great resource #postchat -6:09 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer Do you guys find online tutorials helpful? There are a lot of really bad ones on YouTube. #PostChat -6:09 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @Salah_Baker oh man. tell me about it. It’s 68 degrees year round for me. #PostChat -6:09 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/iXojiJg Avid tips #PostChat -6:09 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative @dwolfmeyer haha so true, but a few have saved my ass #postchat -6:09 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Great place to find #AVID tutorial videos: http://t.co/piDk2ai #PostChat -6:09 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer I’ve always been a dive right into the app type of person (when there’s time) Never been huge on tutorials. #PostChat -6:10 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @dwolfmeyer agreed. I have a had time with ANYthing on YouTube, though. #snob #PostChat -6:10 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker My fave place was at one time http://t.co/7jtxNK9 for fast help and ideas #PostChat -6:10 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@videoguys DVinfo.net is a great community. focused more on camcorders, formats and workflows. Videoguys sponsors DVinfo.net & Creative Cow #postchat -6:10 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id .@digitalreb has some awesome tutorial PodCasts: http://t.co/X2mZfYV #PostChat -6:11 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer The cheapest way to learn is to just jump on a system and start hitting the buttons. #PostChat -6:11 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp I prefer tutorials that come with books. #postChat -6:11 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker But I think I am banned from almost every forum in the Video world…go figure #PostChat -6:12 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Nice! I haven’t heard of it before RT @Salah_Baker: My fave place was at one time http://t.co/abKpP5k for fast help and ideas #PostChat -6:12 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/DiRT7by Avid-L Archives Hotdogs, turducken, GFIs and Avid #PostChat -6:12 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@videoguys Videoguys Top resources for Video Editing – tons of links here http://t.co/UknHIUh #postchat -6:12 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id .@fcpdotco is great for FCP and FCPX tutorials: http://t.co/LaH1Zmt #PostChat -6:13 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@jasonkonoza I can’t keep up with all the great links, will reference the transcription later. #slow #PostChat -6:13 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@AnnCKiely Well.. I prefer tutorials that come with books. #postChat lol! -6:14 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker dvinfo.com is my place for all things Cineform (short cell phone) #PostChat -6:14 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@mikeapi #postchat DVXUser.com was pretty helpful for me on a number of occasions. All topics. Bought bunch of gear too, good community of people. -6:14 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/bbNw1kz Avid tutorials #PostChat -6:14 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id I have to mention the great list @artguillotine has pulled together: http://t.co/iXDmf8f #PostChat -6:14 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @Dr0id @fcpdotco oo thanks I am totally bookmarking that. #postchat -6:14 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/PtLXjbq Avid Marquee #PostChat -6:15 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Also Tej’s Tech Blog is outstanding for learning Post tools: http://t.co/lowOksU @TejBabra #PostChat -6:16 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp slightly off topic– but I do love me some Abduzeedo #postchat http://t.co/j2VsDrC -6:16 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer Learning how to tell a story is as important as the tools. Watch lots of movies & TV Learn from those you admire & those you don’t #PostChat -6:17 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker personally hate alll the XUSER forums, nothing but fanboys #PostChat -6:17 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @dwolfmeyer at my station they just throw you into the fire. which is good cuz I know I wont do something if I dont have to #postchat -6:17 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Are you able to learn from online resources? Do you prefer videos showing you steps, or tutorial in app. Or books? #PostChat -6:17 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @Hitecsoftouch no one wants to learn Marquee! #PostChat -6:17 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@mikeapi This. // RT @dwolfmeyer Watch lots of movies & TV Learn from those you admire & those you don’t #PostChat -6:18 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@videoguys for those SWITCHing too Adobe Premiere Pro Adobe.tv has great tutorials http://t.co/GZxHp9M #postchat -6:18 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @dwolfmeyer well said #PostChat -6:18 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @videoguys nice! #PostChat -6:18 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/2RHgaJj Videos from Avid about Avid #PostChat -6:19 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@ErikNBCSD RT @videoguys: for those SWITCHing too Adobe Premiere Pro Adobe.tv has great tutorials http://t.co/GZxHp9M #postchat -6:19 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id I know when I was working on the last RED feature, this site saved the day: http://t.co/xGIXfwS #PostChat -6:19 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@oric RT @Dr0id: Creative Cow is, without a doubt, an essential resource. It’s an incredible community. http://t.co/XoZ1Rpn #PostChat -6:20 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Also, @editblog is an amazing resource of Post Pro knowledge: http://t.co/s1jtOsr #PostChat -6:20 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer A great way to learn on the job is to look at what other editors do. See how they work & how they build sequences. #PostChat -6:21 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@mikeapi @Dr0id #PostChat IMO web resources are good to an extent, lots of info and jumping off points. Then its practice and good old trial & error. -6:21 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @Dr0id I think with RED I am just going to have to take a class on that. It looks too scary to be without a mentor in the flesh #postchat -6:21 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id I have to admit, I have a hard time learning from watching videos. I have to dive in and try it. Or it doesn’t stick. #PostChat -6:21 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @dwolfmeyer wish I could see that #PostChat -6:21 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision RT @dwolfmeyer: Learning how to tell a story is as important as the tools. Watch lots of movies & TV Learn from those you admire & those you don’t #PostChat -6:22 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/83o2jrA Unofficial Avid tuts #PostChat -6:22 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer Then there’s the obvious: Post people on Twitter, their blogs, the weekly POSTCHAT! #PostChat -6:22 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz Like @Dr0id mentioned, @FCPdotCO is great. Plus @FCPeffects has an awesome blog #PostChat -6:23 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @macgarp well, a lot of red feature work has DIT’s on site to help. With transcoding, workflow, etc. You wouldn’t be all alone. #PostChat -6:23 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@michaschmidt RT @Dr0id: Also Tej’s Tech Blog is outstanding for learning Post tools: http://t.co/lowOksU @TejBabra #PostChat -6:23 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker Come on! We all know RED workflow is the easy one in Post…#PostChat -6:23 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/ZCxpsEf For Tej AUG #PostChat -6:23 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @dwolfmeyer agreed. Twitter has saved the day so, so many times for me. I’ve learned so much from this community. #PostChat -6:23 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@mikeapi @Dr0id #PostChat I do find learning from books easier, however. An old editor gave me The Avid Handbook yrs ago and I ate it up. -6:23 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher @mikeapi @Dr0id I still want to pick that one up. #postchat -6:24 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @mikeapi see, for me. I stored it in my brain, but it didn’t click until I had to implement. Diff learning styles, I guess. #PostChat -6:24 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp btw– all books at Borders fire sale start at 30% off, some 50% off– got me some great dealz #postchat -6:24 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch YOU are an awesome resource. #PostChat -6:25 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/uQ8emou Avid User Groups #PostChat -6:25 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @macgarp great point #PostChat -6:25 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker I bairly have time for a book anymore, Hurkmans was last I got 1/4 way into…#Postchat -6:25 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@zaffi Website and video tutorials can be immensely helpful, but @Dr0id is right, best way to learn is to jump in and mess around #PostChat -6:25 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@mikeapi @Dr0id #PostChat // totally -6:26 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch http://t.co/X1klzba Final Cut Pro Mailing List #PostChat -6:26 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker I wish I had a GURU Mentor…#Postchat -6:26 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative what’s everyone reading in the way of editorial these days? I’ve got Avid Agility waiting for me at home… #postchat -6:26 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @Dr0id I bought about $300 worth of graphic design and film books for about $150 ! w00t #postchat -6:26 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@mikeapi totally //RT @Dr0id see, for me. I stored it in my brain, but it didn’t click until I had to implement. #PostChat -6:26 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id I’m jealous of peeps who can just read resource books. I have to be looking for something specific, or I have a hard time diving n #PostChat -6:26 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @macgarp whoa. online? or at an actual borders store? #PostChat -6:27 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t Joining in #postchat late. Highly recommend @fxphd. Was able to get my hands on all kinds of stuff I wouldn’t normally. #PostChat -6:27 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher RT @kyl33t: Joining in #postchat late. Highly recommend @fxphd. Was able to get my hands on all kinds of stuff I wouldnt normally. #postchat -6:27 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @FCPeffects @Dr0id use the #PostChat hashtag so everyone can see. -6:27 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @kyl33t good call #PostChat -6:27 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @dwolfmeyer Wants to? Needs to, sigh #Marquee #PostChat -6:28 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @Dr0id an actual borders book store! I might take a pic of my haul and post it #postchat -6:28 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer Never been able to just read tech books. They’re good for looking certain things up, but as a cover to cover read? Forget about it #PostChat -6:28 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id We were chatting about Lightworks last week. A couple tutorial links: http://t.co/StPMLRO #PostChat -6:28 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id more #Lightworks: http://t.co/qn27nAt #PostChat -6:28 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @macgarp ha! you should #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t More @fxphd: learned basics of Smoke, got raw RED, alexa files to learn workflows/practice managing for example #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz A little shameless self-promotion. There’s always my site http://t.co/4XG8CoY haha #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects Unhide your Library folder in #Lion – new post from the FCPeffects.com blog http://t.co/BfiEY6m #FCPX #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@theriotisover Oh hi #PostChat srry I’m late!! Oh hai @mikeapi -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz thank you #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @FinalCutWhiz: A little shameless self-promotion. Theres always my site http://t.co/VTtyA1y haha #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@KimHuston @pietaricreative I just bought the two Bobbie O’steen books two days ago! And then there are like 6 more I’ve started. #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @dwolfmeyer I like the big glossies with purrty pictures. “exercises” and a DVD companion #postchat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @Dr0id thanks, bookmarking that lightworks stuff. really want to get into it. #PostChat -6:29 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz Aww it ruined my beautiful link haha FinalCutWhiz.com #PostChat -6:30 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id People mentioned Video Co Pilot. Here’s a direct link to tuts: http://t.co/pefNHti #PostChat -6:30 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision @Dr0id Watching a tutorial for the overall feel of the effect is a helpful guide to then explore from. Then you play around! #postchat -6:30 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @drempt_vision agreed. I sometimes watch vids just to affirm that I’m not crazy and doing something wrong. #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t I do think tutorials are kinda bad bc ppl use them to accomplish a single effect instead of learning a concept. Kinda hate them. #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp I also feel lucky to be around a few editors at my station that know how to make graphics in FCP so I can bark out questions #postchat -6:31 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker RT @Dr0id: RT @FinalCutWhiz: A little shameless self-promotion. Theres always my site http://t.co/VTtyA1y haha #PostChat -6:31 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects yes they DO http://t.co/SRwGn59 RT @FinalCutWhiz: Like @Dr0id mentioned, FCP.co is great. Plus @FCPeffects has an awesome blog #PostChat -6:32 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer I started reading The Conversations a few months ago, but then got really busy on a gig & haven’t gotten back to it yet. #PostChat -6:32 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch These shortened URLs are a total pain for discussion purposes #PostChat -6:32 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @FCPeffects: yes they DO http://t.co/SRwGn59 RT @FinalCutWhiz: Like @Dr0id mentioned, FCP.co is great. Plus @FCPeffects has an awesome blog #PostChat -6:32 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher @kyl33t Yeah, that is a problem. You see so many copycats (I’m even guilty) you have learn how to use it on your own. #postchat -6:32 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@videoguys For learning and mastering Avid I highly recommend Avid Agility Training Book by Steven Cohen: http://t.co/wSI1bL8 #PostChat -6:32 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative free download #lightworks #PostChat http://t.co/y6a0aJf -6:32 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @TyLeisher sometimes u need to copycat. i get tired of ppl coming on forums asking for a tut instead of learning AE for example #PostChat -6:33 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @pietaricreative Have you run Lightworks? #PostChat -6:33 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id I’m always too busy working, hard to fit in new things to learn. I have to set specific time-treat it like a college class. #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@ilovehue RT @videoguys: For learning and mastering Avid I highly recommend Avid Agility Training Book by Steven Cohen: http://t.co/wSI1bL8 #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch Anything by Mr. Cohen,Bayes, Shufflebottom or Staten will give you a leg up on Avid. I’ve missed some. #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative @dwolfmeyer not yet, but an editor I assisted on a feature LOVED it, so now that its on MAC I want to check it out #PostChat -6:34 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id But, I also always feel the excitement of learning a new tool, or trick. New shortcuts always feel empowering. #PostChat -6:35 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision @kyl33t See I watch tuts to see how I can make that effect my own.. I use it as a learning tool #PostChat -6:35 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @kyl33t @TyLeisher lol I want to copycat this on AE : http://t.co/2BKfhkT #postchat -6:35 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative i love sitting with a fellow editor and picking up random keystrokes… learning from others is always awesome #PostChat -6:35 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects Get any of our Final Cut Pro X effects at FCPeffects.com (http://t.co/aNtGA6q) for 75% off with code “POSTCHAT”. Hurry!!! #FCPX #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz Speaking of avid, I tried it the other day. I can do a basic edit. It’s very interesting. Much different than FCP. #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@jeannevb @Dr0id topic? #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@KimHuston @Dr0id oh, yeah! @videocopilot is the best. #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch Like Steve Hullfish for colour correction especially. #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @drempt_vision makes sense to do that, i have done tuts to learn how things come together. then i apply that to other projects #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz it is. But, once you go #AVID, you won’t go back. At least keyboard wise. #PostChat -6:36 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@jeannevb RT @Dr0id: Alright, time for Post Chat this week. We are chatting about learning post and post apps for or little $. #postproduction #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker my main issue with any tutorial is the “human attention span” (daytime soap edit guys, it is?) #Postchat -6:37 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @drempt_vision i just hate ppl who skip the learning process and reproduce an effect with NO idea WHY it works. #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @jeannevb Learning resources #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @jeannevb How to learn your ass off without spending an arm and a leg. #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id I don’t like how Avid’s keyframe shortcuts are like the number one and two. I like the arrows instead. #PostChat -6:37 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision RT @FCPeffects: Get any of our Final Cut Pro X effects at FCPeffects.com (http://t.co/aNtGA6q) for 75% off with code “POSTCHAT”. Hurry!!! #FCPX #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @jeannevb you’re amazing #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision RT @Dr0id: People mentioned Video Co Pilot. Here’s a direct link to tuts: http://t.co/pefNHti #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @macgarp that would be AWESOME. “is there a plugin for this.” #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @Salah_Baker I hear that, too much set up on a lot of tutorials. Get to the point already! #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@jeannevb Chat going on RIGHT NOW #scriptchat #editors RT @Dr0id: @jeannevb How to learn your ass off without spending an arm and a leg. #PostChat -6:38 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id 20 min left of Post Chat this week. ‘How to learn your ass off without spending an arm and a leg.’ Share some tuts. Learn somethin #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @FinalCutWhiz remap the keyboard, it is easy #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@jeannevb @Dr0id got your back, man #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @dwolfmeyer @Salah_Baker OMG, thank you for saying that. Drives me nuts. #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer Learning keystrokes is great & all, but I’m hoping the future of editing involves more tactile controls so we can focus on story. #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @jeannevb you do. Thank you, friend. #PostChat -6:39 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@whomadewhoprods #PostChat So before ADR, do locked picture version for actors to verbalize so less time wasted plus less editing? -6:39 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision @kyl33t oh ya I’m with you on that one! #postchat Every edit should be a learning process -6:39 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @Hitecsoftouch not a big fan of doing that. I like keeping defaults. Just in case I am jumping around different computers. #PostChat -6:40 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @whomadewhoprods agreed #PostChat -6:40 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @dwolfmeyer @Salah_Baker Video tuts tend to be much slower than needed or slide over important steps. #PostChat -6:40 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz @Hitecsoftouch that’s what I did. I’m #AVID keyboard on both. Well, red arrow type AVID cutting. #PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects For some really good Motion 5 tutorials, check out fxmah on YouTube (http://t.co/z9kJcwQ). He’s also on Twitter, @sightcreations #PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@jeannevb @Hitecsoftouch thank you #PostChat -6:41 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @Hitecsoftouch @dwolfmeyer show me a 2 min how to and give me a file to sort out #Postchat -6:42 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision @dwolfmeyer @Salah_Baker @Dr0id All that waiting time helps you realize how you can achieve that edit in a waay more effective way #postchat -6:42 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @dwolfmeyer TCheck these out http://t.co/VFmuGcf not inexpensive but tactile #PostChat -6:42 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch but anyways I am sticking with FCP for one more year. See how #FCPX goes. Then I might switch to avid. #PostChat -6:42 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Amazing thing about the #postproduction twitter community is how giving they are. I’ve learned so much. Leaned on so many here. #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@cinemeditor Without shortcuts my racing editor brain would bog down, causing a bloody 500 frame pileup. #postchat -6:43 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Great place to start: http://t.co/QFywkmp #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@videoguys do you guys use color coded editing keyboards? I find they help me learn new NLEs faster. Also nice refresher when I bounce around #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @cinemeditor ha! #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@jeannevb @Dr0id I have a Dr0id Ap on my Mac. It let’s me see what youre doing in the editing room at all times #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@DCReels The Macbreak/Ripple folks are great for Final Cut (what’s left of it) and most books from PeachPit Press are great for training #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @FinalCutWhiz In Avid you take your kb settings, all settings for that matter with you. #PostChat -6:43 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @videoguys yeah. I try to never look down, but it is always helpful for me. #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kim_garland RT @Dr0id: Amazing thing about the #postproduction twitter community is how giving they are. I’ve learned so much. Leaned on so many here. #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @videoguys I banned them, Made me lazt #Postchat -6:44 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @Salah_Baker @Hitecsoftouch @dwolfmeyer nods #2min #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @jeannevb …oh no… ha! #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @DCReels good call on Ripple #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@DCReels And I do like to use the proper keyboard for the NLE I’m working with. #PostChat -6:44 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @Hitecsoftouch I want to demo the Artist Transport. If I like it I’ll buy one, but I’m not gonna drop $400 w/o testing it. #PostChat -6:45 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@videoguys @FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch Avid’s going to knock your socks off with MC6! BIG things ahead #PostChat -6:45 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@toddzelin Read “In the Blink of an Eye”. It’s the only book on editing that never made me pass out. #PostChat -6:45 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects Speaking of tutorials, I love it when I catch my professional editor friends watching YouTube tutorials made by 10 year olds. #PostChat -6:45 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @jeannevb #PostChat -6:45 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@stevensantos RT @toddzelin: Read “In the Blink of an Eye”. It’s the only book on editing that never made me pass out. #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @Hitecsoftouch I’d also like to try out the Artist Control, but the transport section looks weak & it is WAY overpriced #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@whomadewhoprods #PostChat Music editors – worth it or better to find your own music? Should they handle rights issues or should producer? -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@cinemeditor Cutting, at the speed of your brain, with keyboard shortcuts will make your hands blurry, like the great flatbed editors of old. #postchat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @videoguys: @FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch Avid’s going to knock your socks off with MC6! BIG things ahead #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@DCReels @videoguys Agreed, that’s the next training book I’ll buy, MC6. #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t I learn a lot from reading other peoples’ problems on forums. On the COW, and @lafcpug has a good forum too. #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision RT @Dr0id: Great place to start: http://t.co/QFywkmp #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @videoguys @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch yeah I saw it (MC6). Looks awesome! I plan on learning it at least. But not use it as my main NLE #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @videoguys prefer to #PostChat -6:46 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Lucas_Morrison Tutorials are nice but sometimes not getting any help and using the trial and fail method is where I learn the most #PostChat -6:47 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative RT @videoguys: @FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id @Hitecsoftouch Avid’s going to knock your socks off with MC6! BIG things ahead #PostChat -6:47 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @FCPeffects but you have to think by trial and error and not knowing the “right way”. Sometimes it shows you another way #Postchat -6:47 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @dwolfmeyer Amen to that! #PostChat -6:47 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@whomadewhoprods #PostChat Moving my own editing on Sony Vegas to an editor on Final Cut. Big difference in final product before color correction? -6:48 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @Lucas_Morrison agreed. #PostChat -6:48 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t Question: what is the best way to learn Avid if you don’t have the opportunity to be on Avid much for actual work? #PostChat -6:48 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @whomadewhoprods well. hard to judge the final product by the tool. FCP should give you more choices and freedoms. #PostChat -6:48 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id @DCReels yeah @RippleTraining has great tutorials!! Helped me a lot with #FCPX. #PostChat -6:48 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPUGNetwork @kyl33t Have you tried Class On Demand to learn #Avid? #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative @kyl33t download the trial and just start cutting! #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz are you digging #FCPX? I still love FCP7 #longlive @DCReels @RippleTraining #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @kyl33t Initially dl the 30 day trial #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @theriotisover how do you learn post pro stuff? #PostChat -6:49 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision RT @FinalCutWhiz: @Dr0id @DCReels yeah @RippleTraining has great tutorials!! Helped me a lot with #FCPX. #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher RT @Dr0id: @FinalCutWhiz are you digging #FCPX? I still love FCP7 #longlive @DCReels @RippleTraining #postchat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@DCReels Feel we should pay tribute the the Mount Rushmore of tuts: Jordan, Wohl, Stone, Weynand. #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@theriotisover @kyl33t Invent a project; work on indie project; get ANY dailies to mess around with… You can even recut a project from work. #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @pietaricreative @kyl33t agreed. Having a project will be the best way to learn. #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id I only play with it. I still exit in FCP7. #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer Here are some great tutorials: http://t.co/QsL460D #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch RT @DCReels: Feel we should pay tribute the the Mount Rushmore of tuts: Jordan, Wohl, Stone, Weynand. #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id but to answer your question, it’s nice. Not usable yet though. Too many bugs and things left out. #PostChat -6:50 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz as do I, at main work. But AVID everywhere else. #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @Hitecsoftouch @kyl33t Have child in school? Get Student discount. #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @pietaricreative @hitecsoftouch what about after the 30 day trial is over :-X want to get deeper into it! #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @DCReels: Feel we should pay tribute the the Mount Rushmore of tuts: Jordan, Wohl, Stone, Weynand. #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@TyLeisher @Dr0id @kyl33t I downloaded the Avid trial, but got so swamped with other projects that I havent had time to touch it #postchat -6:51 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@videoguys @FCPUGNetwork @kyl33t class on demand Avid for FCP editors is a great quickstart & the $995 crossgrade comes with it! #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative Learn Avid – you’ll get paid more as an editor #PostChat -6:51 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@DCReels @TyLeisher @Dr0id @FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id I’m not touching/buying FCPX. Sticking w/FCP7 and Avid. Might even add PPro. #POstChat -6:51 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id RT @pietaricreative: Learn Avid – youll get paid more as an editor #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @Salah_Baker HMM i do have a husband in school. not a bad idea unless the education version is limiting.. #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Lucas_Morrison @toddzelin awesome, I would also add Making Movies by Sidney Lumet to that list even though it only had a chapter on editing #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @Salah_Baker @Hitecsoftouch @kyl33t brilliant #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative and that’s coming from someone who’s been solely FCP7 editing for years… #PostChat I should have stuck w Avid 100% -6:52 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @TyLeisher thats what happened to me. downloaded when i was free, 3 side projects pop up! got maybe a week of solid practicing #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id I only have access to Avid at my work. And a trial on my home computer. But that $295 price for students is looks nice. #PostChat -6:52 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @kyl33t @Salah_Baker it’s not. It’s a full version of Media Composer. #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects Question for all the ex-FCP editors: in the future will you buy Macs or switch to Windows machines? #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@theriotisover When I wanna tut, I use Lynda or the app’s dev/community forums. When I get my hands on the app and USE IT. #PostChat @Dr0id -6:53 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPUGNetwork @videoguys Can you post the url for @kyl33t #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@toddzelin I don’t do anything but edit. I don’t do color, graphics, FX or anything like that. After Effects is a four letter word to me. #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch Myself I am going to add Adobe Production to my Avid since the deal is there. Already use PS and AE. #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @dwolfmeyer I love those! #postchat -6:53 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @FCPeffects will never ever go PC. Unless the project is already set up PC. Yuck! #PostChat -6:53 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPUGNetwork @pietaricreative Learn Avid – and you’ll get to hang out more with Stacy ) #PostChat -6:54 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@theriotisover The best learnings come from watching others work, watching their workflows. To really learn you need to ask a lot of Qs. #PostChat @Dr0id -6:54 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @kyl33t @TyLeisher When demoeing I use freash computer that can be ghosted prior to demo install ;P Chaep as drive. #PostChat -6:54 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @toddzelin I made two music vids that I forced myself to do only in AE. Now, yrs later. I LOVE it. #PostChat -6:54 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@cinemeditor Switch apps w/o a mouse (cmd-tab-enter) ur brain’ll thank u for not tapping the brakes while he’s trying to get ur project done #postchat -6:54 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @kyl33t @Salah_Baker Avid EDu cheap unlimited and 4 years of free updates AIR #PostChat -6:54 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@drempt_vision @Dr0id @kyl33t @Salah_Baker good to know! #postchat Re: Student discount #Avid -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @Dr0id SWEET it’s only $295. technically he’s doing a couple video classes as electives so i don’t feel so bad about doing that… #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @theriotisover well said. #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @videoguys I use them when they’re there, but I don’t like them. I prefer a regular, white Apple KB. #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@toddzelin So I never look for tutorials… like ever. I know my NLE’s and that’s it. Some say limited…. I say focused. #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @cinemeditor ohh. Mac shortcut? #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@videoguys Videoguys.com – Class On Demand DVD Tutorials: http://t.co/6NeJzjQ #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @Dr0id GRRRRRRR #Postchat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative @FCPUGNetwork haha, i’m not in that category just yet, that’s why i want people to learn from my [mistakes] #PostChat #NoRegrets hahaha -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @macgarp I couldn’t resist! #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@theriotisover Mostly I learn by doing; trial by fire. And I almost always RTFM. Don’t underestimate the user manual, people!! @Dr0id #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @videoguys nice! #PostChat -6:55 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects Can you open Avid/Premiere projects that were started on a PC on a Mac? @Dr0id #PostChat -6:56 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @theriotisover I learn by watching you. A lot! #PostChat -6:56 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@paulkubera RT @FCPUGNetwork: @pietaricreative Learn Avid – and you’ll get to hang out more with Stacy ) #PostChat -6:56 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @FCPeffects hum. good Q. Automatic Duck might help. #PostChat -6:56 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@theriotisover I was lucky enough to do a true apprenticeship at one point. That was the period during which I learned the most. Also film school #PostChat -6:57 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker RT @theriotisover: Mostly I learn by doing; trial by fire. And I almost always RTFM. Don’t underestimate the user manual, people!! @Dr0id #PostChat -6:57 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id We’ve been chatting about free training and tuts, but if u can throw down some $, I HIGHLY recommend http://t.co/mFcC0tP @MEWshop #PostChat -6:57 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @FCPeffects @Dr0id should be(disclaimer) fine #postchat -6:57 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @FCPeffects @Dr0id Avid Yes a few bugs but if you open just the bins you should be fine. #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@theriotisover @Dr0id Ditto!! I learn AT LEAST 1 thing a week frm you. We’re never done sharing. #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Also, I learn so much from film school. SVA was huge for me. www.sva.edu Highly recommend. #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@DCReels Tuts are cool for a specific problem or effect but I get more from books & in depth articles. I like as much detail as possible. #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@filmgeek @FCPeffects @dr0id #Postchat Absolutely. Avid/Premiere Pro projects (and media) are 100% cross platform compatible -6:58 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @theriotisover i learned Avid initially hands on in spare time at 2 internships. thankful for that opportunity in the midwest. #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects @CreativityInMo @Dr0id I think Apple has won then… they won the pro’s with software and now have them hooked on hardware. #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @theriotisover word #PostChat -6:58 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@DCReels And yes, the manuals. #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id A couple more resources: AJA tutorials: http://t.co/wNMiVzQ #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Salah_Baker @kyl33t i wish I could go back to avid, just to much invested right now #Postchat -6:59 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @Dr0id SVA looks amazing. i want my mfa but i don’t want to pay for it #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @mediacircustv @dr0id I did the Avid Professional program at VS from 2003-05. Totally worth the cost. #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id if we are talking about colleges. Any suggestions? I am planing on going to Ithaca. #PostChat -6:59 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Creative Cow PodCasts. Learn on the train to work: http://t.co/79OIDyA #PostChat -7:00 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects @filmgeek @dr0id ok. thanks! #PostChat -7:00 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@whomadewhoprods #PostChat Speaking of entering post production, check out the newest comedic short film Two Riders Were Approaching…http://t.co/xZOTfrq -7:00 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pirid Gotta have a project. #Avid used to provide footage. anyone have resources? Or access to practice footage? #PostChat -7:00 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id iTunes Software ‘how to’ section: http://t.co/uwGb2uy #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FCPeffects @FinalCutWhiz @dr0id University of Florida! Go Gators! #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative @FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id ooh, i might get crucified for this but i’d say DON’T go to college – move to NYC or LA and jump right in. #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @Dr0id oh heck you never said we could talk about anything besides editing. Scopes, monitor alignment, decks, burning #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@dwolfmeyer @Dr0id Oh you East Coast people and your effective mass transit. LA is a car town! #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Hitecsoftouch @Dr0id let me just upload my bookmarks.. #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@theriotisover @kyl33t Spare time?? what’s that?? We can make our own learning time by creating our own projects. it IS tiring but rewarding. #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id @dwolfmeyer ha! Was in Cali for years. Love the trains in NYC. #PostChat -7:01 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@pietaricreative @FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id spend the money you would spend on living, while making nothing and doing an internship at an amazing company #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@FinalCutWhiz @pietaricreative @Dr0id I’d love to. But I am afraid I won’t get noticed I’m @ConnorCrosby by the way in case anyone knows me. #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@filmgeek @pirid I believe avid has a sample project. Also most of the books on the market have footage #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@macgarp @dwolfmeyer @Dr0id bwhahaha!!! so is Detroit, the bestest car town in the whole wide world! #postchat -7:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@DCReels I agree w/this!! RT @FinalCutWhiz @Dr0id i’d say DON’T go to college – move to NYC or LA and jump right in. #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@kyl33t @theriotisover i meant downtime when edit suites at the internship weren’t used which was often, the place was going downhill #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011

@Dr0id Okay, that’s Post Chat for this week. Keep the chat going, if you want, obviously. Transcript will be up shortly. I learned a lot. #PostChat -7:02 PM Aug 17th, 2011